Good morning, everybody. It -- It is wonderful to see all of you, and I want to thank everybody who is here. I think there's only one problem, and that is that my remarks are not sitting here. 大家早上好。见到各位真高兴，也感谢所有到场的人。我想只有一个问题：我的讲稿不在这里。
People! Things...by Friday afternoon, things get a little challenged. 各位！到了星期五下午，事情就有点难办了。
Question: Will you answer a question in the -- 记者：您会在——回答一个问题吗？
President Obama: I'm going to have a -- I'm going to answer a question at the end of the remarks, but I want to make sure that we get the remarks out. People! Oh, goodness. Oh, somebody is tripping. Folks are sweating back there right now. 奥巴马总统：我会在讲话结束后回答一个问题，但得先把讲稿拿来。各位！天哪，有人脚下绊了一下。后面的人这会儿肯定急出汗了。
Well, good morning everybody. This afternoon, I'm going to be in Southern California to meet with President Xi of China. But before I leave Northern California, I wanted to take a minute to address something that’s happening with the Affordable Care Act in this state, and I wanted to meet with a group of people who are doing some very important work on behalf of California’s middle-class families. 好，各位早上好。今天下午我将在南加利福尼亚会见中国的习近平主席。但离开北加利福尼亚之前，我想先谈谈《平价医疗法案》在本州的实施，也想见见这群为加州中产家庭做着重要工作的人。
These leaders from California’s government, the California Endowment, and major Spanish language media outlets have joined together to help implement the Affordable Care Act here in California and to educate folks about how to sign up and shop for quality, affordable plans. And their efforts have already shown some excellent results in the biggest insurance market in the country. 来自加州政府、加州基金会及主要西班牙语媒体的这些领导者携手合作，帮助在加州落实《平价医疗法案》，告诉人们怎样登记、选购优质且负担得起的保险。他们的努力已在全国最大的保险市场取得很好的成果。
There are two main things that Americans need to know when it comes to the Affordable Care Act and what it means for you. 关于《平价医疗法案》对大家意味着什么，美国人主要需要知道两件事。
First of all, if you’re one of the nearly 85 percent of Americans who already have insurance, either through Medicare or Medicaid or your employer, you don’t have to do a thing. You’ve just got a wide array of new benefits, better protections and stronger cost controls that you didn’t have before, and that will, over time, improve the quality of the insurance that you've got; benefits like free preventive care -- checkups, flu shots, mammograms and contraception. 首先，如果你属于已经有保险的约百分之八十五的美国人，无论保险来自联邦老年医保、低收入医保还是雇主，都无需采取任何行动。你只是获得了过去没有的一系列新福利、更好的保障和更有效的成本控制；随着时间推移，你现有保险的质量将提高。例如免费预防性医疗，包括体检、流感疫苗、乳房筛查和避孕服务。
You are now going to be able to get those things through your insurance where they previously were not -- didn’t have to be provided. Protections like allowing people up to the age of 26 to stay on their parent's health care plans, which has already helped 6 million Americans, including [1 million] young Latino Americans. 现在你可以通过保险获得这些服务，而过去保险公司不一定需要提供。新的保障还包括允许二十六岁以下子女留在父母的医保计划中。这已帮助六百万美国人，其中包括一百万年轻拉丁裔美国人。
Cost controls like requiring insurance companies to spend at least 80 percent of the money that you pay in premiums in your actual health care costs, as opposed to administrative costs or CEO pay -- not overhead, but that money has to be spent on you. And if they don’t meet that target, they actually have to reimburse you. So in California, we’re already getting reports that insurers are giving rebates to consumers and small business owners to the tune of $45 million this year. 成本控制措施还要求保险公司把你所交保费的至少百分之八十花在实际医疗费用上，而不是行政开支或首席执行官的薪酬。这钱必须花在你身上，而不是管理费用上。若达不到标准，保险公司须向你退款。加州已有报告说，保险公司今年将向消费者和小企业主返还总计四千五百万美元。
So already we're seeing millions of dollars of rebates sent back to consumers by insurance companies as a consequence of this law. 因此，依靠这部法律，我们已看到保险公司向消费者退回数百万美元。
All of that is happening because of the Affordable Care Act. All of this is in place right now, already, for 85 percent of Americans who have health insurance. By the way, all of this is what the Republican Party has now voted 37 times to repeal, at least in the House of Representatives. And my suggestion to them has been, let's stop refighting the old battles and start working with people like the leaders who are on stage here today to make this law work the way it’s supposed to. 这一切都因为《平价医疗法案》而实现。对已经投保的百分之八十五的美国人来说，这些措施现在就已生效。顺便说一句，众议院共和党人已投票三十七次试图废除的，正是这些福利。我建议他们停止重复过去的争论，开始与今天台上的领导者合作，让法律按预期发挥作用。
We’re focused on moving forward and making sure that this law works for middle-class families. And that brings me to the second thing that people need to know about the Affordable Care Act. 我们的重点是向前推进，确保法律惠及中产家庭。这就引出大家需要知道的第二件事。
If you’re one of nearly 6 million Californians or tens of millions of Americans who don’t currently have health insurance, you’ll soon be able to buy quality, affordable care just like everybody else. 如果你属于目前没有医保的近六百万加州人，或全国数千万未投保者，很快就能像其他人一样买到优质、负担得起的保险。
And here’s how. States like California are setting up new, online marketplaces where, beginning on October 1st of this year, you can comparison shop an array of private health insurance plans side-by-side, just like you were going online to compare cars or airline tickets. And that means insurance companies will actually have to compete with each other for your business. And that means new choices. 办法是这样的。加州等州正在设立新的网上保险市场。今年十月一日起，你可以把各种私人医保计划并排比较，就像上网比较汽车或机票。保险公司必须为争取你的生意相互竞争，你也会有新选择。
See, right now, most states don’t have a lot of competition. In nearly every state, more than half of all consumers are covered by only two insurers. So there’s no incentive to provide you a lot of choices or to keep costs down. The Affordable Care Act changes that. 目前，大多数州竞争并不充分。几乎每个州，超过一半消费者只由两家保险公司承保。这样，保险公司就缺乏提供更多选择或压低费用的动力。《平价医疗法案》将改变这一点。
Beginning next year, once these marketplaces are open, most states will offer new private insurance choices that don’t exist today. And based on early reports, about 9 in 10 Americans expected to enroll in these marketplaces live in states where they’ll be able to choose between five or more different insurers. So for example, here in California, 33 insurers applied to join the marketplace. Covered California then selected 13 based on access, quality, and affordability, four of which are brand new to your individual market. 从明年起，这些市场开放后，多数州会提供如今没有的新私人保险选择。根据初步报告，预计报名参加保险市场的美国人中，约九成住在至少可以从五家保险公司中选择的州。例如加州有三十三家保险公司申请进入市场，“加州医保”按可及性、质量和可负担程度选出十三家，其中四家是个人保险市场的新参与者。
So what’s happening is through the Affordable Care Act, we’re creating these marketplaces with more competition, more choice, and so the question is, what happens to cost? 所以《平价医疗法案》通过建立这些市场带来更多竞争、更多选择。问题是，费用会怎样？
Now, a lot of the opponents of the Affordable Care Act, they had all kinds of sky-is-falling, doom-and-gloom predictions that not only would the law fail, but what we’d also is costs would skyrocket for everybody. Well, it turns out we’re actually seeing that in the states that have committed themselves to implementing this law correctly, we’re seeing some good news. Competition and choice are pushing down costs in the individual market just like the law was designed to do. 不少法案反对者曾作出各种“天塌了”的悲观预测，说法律不仅会失败，还会让所有人的费用暴涨。事实是，在认真落实法律的州，我们看到了好消息：竞争和选择正像立法设计的那样，压低个人保险市场的费用。
The 13 insurance companies that were chosen by Covered California have unveiled premiums that were lower than anybody expected. And those who can’t afford to buy private insurance will get help reducing their out-of-pocket premiums even further with the largest health care tax cut for working families and small businesses in our history. So about 2.6 million Californians -- nearly half of whom are Latinos -- will qualify for tax credits that will, in some cases, lower their premiums a significant amount. “加州医保”选出的十三家保险公司公布的保费低于所有人的预期。无力购买私人保险的人还将得到帮助，通过美国历史上面向工薪家庭和小企业规模最大的医疗税收减免，进一步降低自付保费。约二百六十万加州人，其中近半数是拉丁裔，将符合税收抵免资格；某些情况下，保费会大幅下降。
Now, none of this is a surprise. This is the way that the law was designed to work. But since everybody has been saying how it's not going to happen, I think it's important for us to recognize and acknowledge this is working the way it's supposed to. We've seen similar good news, by the way, not just here in California but in Oregon and Washington. In states that are working hard to implement this law properly, we're seeing it work for people -- for middle-class families, for consumers. 这一切并不意外，法律本来就是这样设计的。但既然一直有人说办不到，我们就该承认，它正按预期发挥作用。类似好消息不仅出现在加州，也出现在俄勒冈州和华盛顿州。凡是认真落实法律的州，我们都看到它正在惠及普通人、中产家庭和消费者。
Now, that's not to say that everything is going to go perfectly right away. When you're implementing a program this large, there will be some glitches. There are going to be some hiccups. But no matter what, every single consumer will be covered by the new benefits and protections under this law permanently. 这不是说一开始所有环节都会完美。实施这么大的项目，难免出现故障和磕绊。但无论如何，每位消费者都将永久得到法律规定的新福利与保障。
So the bottom line is you can listen to a bunch of political talk out there -- negative ads and fear mongering geared towards the next election -- or alternatively you can actually look at what’s happening in states like California right now. 关键是，你可以听那些针对下次选举的政治说辞、负面广告和恐吓，也可以亲眼看看加州等州眼下正在发生什么。
And the fact of the matter is through these exchanges, not only are the 85 percent of people who already have health insurance getting better protections, and receiving rebates, and being able to keep their kids on their health insurance until they're 26, and getting free preventive care, but if you don't have health insurance and you're trying to get it through the individual market and it's too expensive or it's too restricted, you now have these marketplaces where they're going to offer you a better deal because of choice and competition. 事实是，通过保险交易市场，已经投保的百分之八十五的人不仅得到更好的保障和保费返还，子女可以在二十六岁前继续使用父母的医保，还能获得免费预防性医疗。没有保险的人，若觉得个人市场太贵或限制太多，现在也能进入这些市场，通过选择和竞争得到更好的条件。
And if even at those lower rates and better insurance that you're getting through these marketplaces you still can't afford it, you're going to be getting tax cuts and tax credits through the Affordable Care Act that will help you afford it. And that's how we're going to make sure that millions of people who don't currently have health insurance or are getting a really bad deal on their health insurance are finally going to get it. 即使保费更低、保障更好，你仍负担不起市场提供的保险，也能通过《平价医疗法案》获得减税和税收抵免，帮助支付费用。这样，数百万目前没有医保或保单极不划算的人，终于能获得适当保障。
But -- and here's my final point -- to take advantage of these marketplaces, folks are going to need to sign up. So you can find out how to sign up at HealthCare.gov, or here in California you can sign up at CoveredCA.com. Because quality care is not something that should be a privilege, it should be a right. In the greatest country on Earth, we've got to make sure that every single person that needs health care can get it. And we've got to make sure that we do it in the most efficient way possible. 最后一点：要用上这些市场，大家必须报名。你可以在美国医保网站查询如何报名；在加州，还可以上“加州医保”网站。优质医疗不应是一种特权，而应是一项权利。在世界上最伟大的国家，我们必须确保每个需要医疗服务的人都能得到，并以尽可能高效的方式实现。
One last point I'm going to make on this, because there are a lot of people who currently get health insurance through their employers -- the 85 percent who are already out there -- and they may be saying, well, if this law is so great, why is it that my premium still went up? 我还想补充一点，因为目前通过雇主获得医保的人很多。他们属于已经投保的百分之八十五，也许会问：既然法律这么好，为什么我的保费还在涨？
Well, part of what's happening across the country is in some cases, for example, employers may be shifting more costs through higher premiums or higher deductibles or higher copays, and so there may still be folks who are out there feeling increased costs not because of the Affordable Care Act but because those costs are being passed on to workers or insurance companies, in some cases. Even with these laws in place, they're still jacking up prices unnecessarily. 全国一些地方的情况是，雇主提高保费、自付额或共同支付额，把更多成本转嫁给员工。因此，有人仍感到费用增加，原因未必是《平价医疗法案》，而是成本被转嫁给劳动者；有些保险公司即使在法律实施后也不必要地提高价格。
So this doesn't solve the whole problem, but it moves us in the right direction. It’s also the reason why we have to keep on implementing changes in how our health care system works to continually drive better efficiency, higher quality, lower cost. We’re starting to do that. Health care cost inflation has gone up at the lowest rate over the last three years that we’ve seen in many, many years. So we’re making progress in actually reducing overall health care costs while improving quality, but we’re going to have to continue to push on that front as well. 所以，这部法律并没有解决所有问题，却让我们朝正确方向迈进。我们还要继续改革医疗体系的运作，提高效率和质量，降低成本。工作已经开始：过去三年，医疗费用的涨幅是多年来最低的。我们在降低整体费用、提高质量方面取得进展，但仍需继续努力。
That's also part of what we’re doing in the Affordable Care Act. 这也是《平价医疗法案》正在推动的工作之一。
But the main message I want for Californians and people all across the country -- starting on October 1st, if you’re in the individual market, you can get a better deal. If you’re a small business that's providing health insurance to your employees, you can get a better deal through these exchanges. You’ve got to sign up: HealthCare.gov, or here in California at CoveredCA.com. 我想传达给加州及全国人民的主要信息是：从十月一日起，个人保险市场的消费者可以得到更好的条件；为员工提供医保的小企业，也可以通过交易市场得到更好的条件。你们要报名，去美国医保网站，或加州的“加州医保”网站。
All right? So thank you very much. 好吧？非常感谢。
Question: Mr. President? 记者：总统先生？
President Obama: I’m going to take one question. And then, remember, people are going to have opportunities to also -- answer questions when I’m with the Chinese President today. So I don't want the whole day to just be a bleeding press conference. But I’m going to take Jackie Calmes’ question. 奥巴马总统：我会回答一个问题。今天与中国主席会晤时，大家还会有提问机会，我不想让整天都变成一场没完没了的记者会。现在请杰基·卡尔姆斯提问。
Question: Mr. President, could you please react to the reports of secret government surveillance of phones and Internet? And can you also assure Americans that the government -- your government doesn't have some massive secret database of all their personal online information and activities? 记者：总统先生，能否回应有关政府秘密监控电话和互联网的报道？您能否向美国人保证，您的政府没有建立一个庞大的秘密数据库，储存所有人的个人网络信息与活动？
President Obama: Yes. When I came into this office, I made two commitments that are more important than any commitment I made: Number one, to keep the American people safe; and number two, to uphold the Constitution. And that includes what I consider to be a constitutional right to privacy and an observance of civil liberties. 奥巴马总统：可以。我就任时作出两项比任何其他承诺都重要的承诺：一是保护美国人民的安全，二是维护宪法。其中包括我认为受宪法保障的隐私权，以及对公民自由的尊重。
Now, the programs that have been discussed over the last couple days in the press are secret in the sense that they're classified. But they're not secret in the sense that when it comes to telephone calls, every member of Congress has been briefed on this program. With respect to all these programs, the relevant intelligence committees are fully briefed on these programs. These are programs that have been authorized by broad bipartisan majorities repeatedly since 2006. 过去几天媒体讨论的项目，因为被列为机密，所以是秘密的；但电话项目并非国会不知情的秘密，每一名国会议员都得到过简报。有关这些项目的情报委员会也都充分知情。自二〇〇六年以来，两党大多数议员多次授权这些项目。
And so, I think at the outset, it's important to understand that your duly elected representatives have been consistently informed on exactly what we're doing. Now, let me take the two issues separately. 因此，一开始就要弄清：你们依法选出的代表始终知道我们具体在做什么。现在我把两个问题分开说。
When it comes to telephone calls, nobody is listening to your telephone calls. That’s not what this program is about. As was indicated, what the intelligence community is doing is looking at phone numbers and durations of calls. They are not looking at people's names, and they're not looking at content. But by sifting through this so-called metadata, they may identify potential leads with respect to folks who might engage in terrorism. 关于电话，没有人在监听你们的通话。这不是这个项目的内容。正如已经说明的，情报部门查看的是电话号码和通话时长，不看姓名，也不看通话内容。分析这些所谓元数据，可能帮助他们发现与可能从事恐怖活动者有关的线索。
If these folks -- if the intelligence community then actually wants to listen to a phone call, they've got to go back to a federal judge, just like they would in a criminal investigation. 如果情报部门后来确实想监听某次通话，就必须像刑事调查那样，重新向联邦法官申请。
So I want to be very clear -- some of the hype that we've been hearing over the last day or so -- nobody is listening to the content of people's phone calls. This program, by the way, is fully overseen not just by Congress, but by the FISA Court -- a court specially put together to evaluate classified programs to make sure that the executive branch, or government generally, is not abusing them, and that it's being carried out consistent with the Constitution and rule of law. 所以我要明确说，过去一天左右的一些报道夸大了情况：没人正在监听民众的通话内容。这个项目不仅受到国会监督，也受到《外国情报监视法》法庭监督。该法庭专门审查机密项目，确保行政部门和整个政府没有滥用权力，确保项目符合宪法和法治。
And so, not only does that court authorize the initial gathering of data, but -- I want to repeat -- if anybody in government wanted to go further than just that top-line data and want to, for example, listen to Jackie Calmes' phone call, they would have to go back to a federal judge and indicate why, in fact, they were doing further probing. 法庭不仅批准最初的数据收集。我要重申，政府任何人若想超出最基本的数据，例如监听杰基·卡尔姆斯的电话，都得再次向联邦法官说明为什么需要进一步调查。
Now, with respect to the Internet and emails -- this does not apply to U.S. citizens and it does not apply to people living in the United States. And again, in this instance, not only is Congress fully apprised of it, but what is also true is that the FISA Court has to authorize it. 至于互联网和电子邮件，这个项目不适用于美国公民，也不适用于居住在美国的人。同样，国会对此充分知情，项目也须经《外国情报监视法》法庭批准。
So in summary, what you've got is two programs that were originally authorized by Congress, have been repeatedly authorized by Congress, bipartisan majorities have approved on them, Congress is continually briefed on how these are conducted. There are a whole range of safeguards involved, and federal judges are overseeing the entire program throughout. We're also setting up -- We've also set up an audit process, when I came into office, to make sure that we're, after the fact, making absolutely certain that all the safeguards are being properly observed. 总而言之，这两个项目最初由国会授权，此后多次得到两党多数支持。国会持续获悉其运作情况，项目设有各种保障措施，联邦法官也全程监督。我上任后还设立了审计程序，以便事后确认各项保障得到严格执行。
Now, having said all that, you'll remember when I made that speech a couple of weeks ago about the need for us to shift out of a perpetual war mindset, I specifically said that one of the things that we're going to have to discuss and debate is how are we striking this balance between the need to keep the American people safe and our concerns about privacy? Because there are some tradeoffs involved. 话虽如此，你们还记得几周前我谈到摆脱永久战争思维时，特别说过必须讨论和辩论：怎样在保护美国人民安全与维护隐私之间取得平衡？因为其中确有取舍。
I welcome this debate. And I think it's healthy for our democracy. I think it's a sign of maturity, because probably five years ago, six years ago, we might not have been having this debate. And I think it's interesting that there are some folks on the left but also some folks on the right who are now worried about it who weren't very worried about it when there was a Republican President. I think that's good that we're having this discussion. 我欢迎这场辩论，认为它有益于民主，也是政治成熟的表现。五六年前，我们可能还不会展开这样的讨论。有意思的是，如今左派和右派都有人表示担心，其中一些人在共和党总统执政时却不怎么担心。我认为讨论这件事是好事。
But I think it's important for everybody to understand -- and I think the American people understand -- that there are some tradeoffs involved. I came in with a healthy skepticism about these programs. My team evaluated them. We scrubbed them thoroughly. We actually expanded some of the oversight, increased some of safeguards. But my assessment and my team's assessment was that they help us prevent terrorist attacks. 但人人都应明白，我想美国人民也明白，其中确实存在取舍。我最初对这些项目抱着审慎的怀疑态度。团队对其作了评估，彻底审查，还扩大了部分监督、增加保障措施。最终我们判断，它们有助于预防恐怖袭击。
And the modest encroachments on the privacy that are involved in getting phone numbers or duration without a name attached and not looking at content, that on net, it was worth us doing. Some other folks may have a different assessment on that. 只获取不附带姓名的电话号码和通话时长、不查看内容，确实对隐私有轻微触及，但综合权衡，我们认为值得这样做。其他人也许会作出不同判断。
But I think it's important to recognize that you can't have 100 percent security and also then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience. We're going to have to make some choices as a society. And what I can say is that in evaluating these programs, they make a difference in our capacity to anticipate and prevent possible terrorist activity. And the fact that they’re under very strict supervision by all three branches of government and that they do not involve listening to people's phone calls, do not involve reading the emails of U.S. citizens or U.S. 不过必须认识到，我们无法同时拥有百分之百的安全、百分之百的隐私和零不便。作为社会，我们得作出选择。评估这些项目后，我可以说，它们确实提高了我们预判、阻止潜在恐怖活动的能力。政府三个部门又对其实施非常严格的监督，项目不监听人们的通话，也不读取美国公民或美国
residents absent further action by a federal court that is entirely consistent with what we would do, for example, in a criminal investigation -- I think on balance, we have established a process and a procedure that the American people should feel comfortable about. 居民的电子邮件；若要采取进一步行动，须经联邦法院批准，与刑事调查的做法完全一致。综合来看，我们建立的程序和机制应该让美国人民放心。
But, again, these programs are subject to congressional oversight and congressional reauthorization and congressional debate. And if there are members of Congress who feel differently, then they should speak up. And we're happy to have that debate. 当然，这些项目仍受国会监督，需要国会再次授权，也要接受国会辩论。任何国会议员若有不同看法，都应该直言；我们乐意展开辩论。
Okay? All right. And we'll have a chance to talk further over the course of the next couple of days. 好吗？接下来几天，我们还有机会进一步谈。
Question: Do you welcome the leaks, sir? Do you welcome the leaks? Do you welcome the debate? 记者：总统先生，您欢迎泄密吗？欢迎泄密吗？欢迎这场辩论吗？
President Obama: I don't welcome leaks, because there's a reason why these programs are classified. I think that there is a suggestion that somehow any classified program is a "secret" program, which means it's somehow suspicious. 奥巴马总统：我不欢迎泄密，因为这些项目被列为机密是有原因的。有人似乎认为，任何机密项目都是“秘密”项目，因而必然可疑。
The fact of the matter is in our modern history, there are a whole range of programs that have been classified because -- when it comes to, for example, fighting terror, our goal is to stop folks from doing us harm. And if every step that we’re taking to try to prevent a terrorist act is on the front page of the newspapers or on television, then presumably the people who are trying to do us harm are going to be able to get around our preventive measures. That's why these things are classified. 事实上，在现代历史上，许多项目被列为机密，是因为反恐等工作要阻止有人伤害我们。如果预防恐怖袭击的每一步都登在报纸头版或出现在电视上，试图伤害我们的人很可能就能绕开防范措施。这正是保密的原因。
But that's also why we set up congressional oversight. These are the folks you all vote for as your representatives in Congress, and they're being fully briefed on these programs. And if, in fact, there was -- there were abuses taking place, presumably those members of Congress could raise those issues very aggressively. They're empowered to do so. 这也是我们建立国会监督的原因。国会议员是大家选出的代表，他们充分了解这些项目。如果确实发生滥用，这些议员有权，也应当积极提出问题。
We also have federal judges that we put in place who are not subject to political pressure. They’ve got lifetime tenure as federal judges, and they're empowered to look over our shoulder at the executive branch to make sure that these programs aren’t being abused. 还有不受政治压力左右的联邦法官。他们终身任职，有权监督行政部门，确保项目不被滥用。
So we have a system in which some information is classified, and we have a system of checks and balances to make sure that it’s not abused. And if, in fact, this information ends up just being dumped out willy-nilly without regard to risks to the program, risks to the people involved -- in some cases, on other leaks, risks to personnel in a very dangerous situation -- then it’s very hard for us to be as effective in protecting the American people. 因此，我们的制度一方面允许某些信息保密，另一方面用制衡防止滥用。如果信息不顾项目及参与者面临的风险便任意公开——其他泄密事件有时甚至危及身处险境的人员——我们就难以有效保护美国人民。
That's not to suggest that you just say, trust me; we’re doing the right thing; we know who the bad guys are. And the reason that's not how it works is because we’ve got congressional oversight and judicial oversight. And if people can't trust not only the executive branch but also don't trust Congress and don't trust federal judges to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution, due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here. 这不是让大家只听我说“相信我，我们做得对，我们知道谁是坏人”。我们不这样运作，因为有国会和司法监督。若人们不仅不信任行政部门，也不信任国会和联邦法官能够确保我们遵守宪法、正当程序和法治，那就有问题了。
But my observation is, is that the people who are involved in America’s national security, they take this work very seriously. They cherish our Constitution. The last thing they’d be doing is taking programs like this to listen to somebody’s phone calls. 但据我观察，从事美国国家安全工作的人极认真地对待职责，也珍视宪法。他们最不可能做的事，就是拿这类项目去偷听某个人的电话。
And by the way, with respect to my concerns about privacy issues, I will leave this office at some point, sometime in the last -- next three and a half years, and after that, I will be a private citizen. And I suspect that, on a list of people who might be targeted so that somebody could read their emails or listen to their phone calls, I'd probably be pretty high on that list. It's not as if I don't have a personal interest in making sure my privacy is protected. 顺便说到我对隐私的关切：未来三年半内的某个时候，我会离开总统职位，重新成为普通公民。我猜，如果有人想找目标读取电子邮件或监听电话，我可能会在名单上排得很靠前。所以，确保自身隐私受到保护，也直接关系到我的利益。
But I know that the people who are involved in these programs, they operate like professionals. And these things are very narrowly circumscribed. They're very focused. And in the abstract, you can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amuck, but when you actually look at the details, then I think we've struck the right balance. 但我知道，参与这些项目的人以专业方式工作，项目范围划定得很窄、目标十分明确。抽象地说，你可以担心“老大哥”和项目可能失控；但看过具体细节，我认为我们已经取得了恰当平衡。
Thank you very much, guys. That's it. I -- Thank you. 非常感谢各位。就到这里。我——谢谢。