President Aquino: The honorable President of the United States Barack Obama and his official delegation, members of the Cabinet present, members of the press, ladies and gentlemen: good afternoon. 阿基诺总统:尊敬的美国总统贝拉克·奥巴马及其正式代表团、在场的内阁成员、新闻界朋友、女士们、先生们,下午好。
Today, the Philippines welcomes President Obama and his delegation on his first state visit to the Philippines. The United States is a key ally, a strategic partner, and a reliable friend of the Philippines. 今天,菲律宾欢迎奥巴马总统和代表团首次对菲律宾进行国事访问。美国是菲律宾的重要盟友、战略伙伴和可靠的朋友。
With this visit, we reaffirm the deep partnership between our countries, one founded on democratic values, mutual interest in our shared history and aspirations, and one that will definitely give us the momentum to propel our peoples to even greater heights. 借此次访问,我们再次确认两国深厚的伙伴关系。它建立在民主价值观、对共同历史与理想的关切之上,必将为两国人民迈向更高目标增添动力。
We witnessed the most recent and tangible manifestations of this in the immediate outpouring of assistance from the government of the United States and the American people in the aftermath of Typhoon Haiyan (or Yolanda), and your nation’s clear expression of solidarity with the typhoon survivors. 台风“海燕”,也就是“约兰达”,过后,美国政府和人民立即伸出援手,并明确表达对灾民的支持。我们由此看到了两国伙伴关系最近、也最切实的体现。
Mr. President, in your State of the Union address earlier this year, you spoke of how American volunteers and troops were greeted with gratitude in the affected areas. Today, I reiterate formally the Filipino people will never forget such kindness and compassion. On behalf of my countrymen, I thank the United States of America once more for being a true friend to our people. 总统先生,在今年早些时候的国情咨文中,你谈到美国志愿者和军人在受灾地区得到感激的迎接。今天,我正式重申:菲律宾人民绝不会忘记这份善意和同情。我代表同胞,再次感谢美利坚合众国始终是我国人民真正的朋友。
The friendship and partnership between our countries, however, are evident not only in times of crisis and immediate need, but also in other aspects of our relations. Our defense alliance has been a cornerstone of peace and stability in the Asia Pacific region for more than 60 years. And our strategic partnership spans a broad range of areas of cooperation, contributing to the growth and prosperity of both our nations, and fostering closer bonds between our peoples. 然而,两国的友谊与伙伴关系不仅体现在危机和急需援助的时刻,也体现在关系的其他方面。六十多年来,我们的防务同盟一直是亚太和平稳定的基石。战略伙伴关系还涵盖广泛合作领域,促进两国增长与繁荣,并加深人民之间的纽带。
As such, President Obama and I met today with the shared resolve to ensure that our deepening relations are attune to the realities and needs that have emerged in the 21st century, which affect not only our two countries, but also the entire community of nations. 因此,我和奥巴马总统今天会面,抱着共同决心:确保不断深化的两国关系适应二十一世纪出现的现实与需要。这些变化不仅影响我们两国,也影响整个国际社会。
I thank President Obama for the U.S.’s support for our government’s efforts in modernizing and enhancing its defense capabilities. The Philippines-U.S. Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement takes our security cooperation to a higher level of engagement, reaffirms our country’s commitment to mutual defense and security, and promotes regional peace and stability. 感谢奥巴马总统支持我国政府实现国防能力现代化并加以提升。《菲美加强防务合作协议》使安全合作达到更高层次,重申我国对共同防卫与安全的承诺,也促进地区和平稳定。
Both President Obama and I shared the conviction that territorial and maritime disputes in the Asia Pacific region should be settled peacefully based on international law. We affirm that arbitration is an open, friendly and peaceful approach to seeking a just and durable solution. We also underscored the importance of the full and effective implementation of the Declaration of Conduct and the expeditious conclusion of a substantive and legally binding Code of Conduct in the South China Sea -- all towards fostering peace and stability in our part of the world. 我和奥巴马总统都认为,亚太地区的领土和海洋争端应依据国际法和平解决。我们确认,仲裁是一条公开、友好、和平的途径,有助于寻求公正而持久的解决方案。我们还强调,应全面有效落实《各方行为宣言》,并尽快达成具有实质内容和法律约束力的南海行为准则;这些努力都是为了促进本地区的和平稳定。
We, likewise, welcome the active participation of the United States in regional mechanisms such as the ASEAN Regional Forum and the East Asia Summit. 我们同样欢迎美国积极参与东盟地区论坛、东亚峰会等区域机制。
Typhoon Haiyan showed the entire world how vulnerable the Philippines as well as other developing countries are to natural disasters. As such, humanitarian assistance and disaster response is an essential component of our cooperation. As the United States and the American people have always been ready to support us in the aftermath of disasters, so too do we look forward to the continued cooperation of the United States and the rest of our partners in the international community as we undertake the task of building back the communities affected by Typhoon Haiyan. 台风“海燕”让全世界看到,菲律宾和其他发展中国家面对自然灾害有多么脆弱。因此,人道主义援助与救灾应对是双方合作的重要组成部分。美国和美国人民在灾害发生后始终愿意支持我们。如今,在重建受灾社区的工作中,我们同样期待美国及国际社会其他伙伴继续合作。
This morning we made a promising start as we discussed how our partnership can be enhanced through building climate resilient communities. These kind of strong communities are important not only in withstanding disasters, but also in fostering inclusive growth across the entire country. 今天上午,我们讨论了如何通过建设具有气候韧性的社区加强伙伴关系,开了一个好头。这类坚强的社区不仅有助于抵御灾害,也有助于推动全国的包容性增长。
President Obama and I recognize the importance of strong economic engagement for the continued growth of both the Philippines and the United States. 我和奥巴马总统都认识到,强有力的经济往来对菲美两国持续增长十分重要。
On this note, we expressed our appreciation for the U.S.’s support for our government’s programs under the Partnership for Growth framework, which enhances the policy environment for economic growth through US $145 million total plan contribution from the USAID. U.S. support is also coursed through the Millennium Challenge Corporation, which supports the implementation of projects and road infrastructure, poverty reduction, and good governance, with $434 million grant from 2011 to 2016. 在此,我感谢美国支持我国政府在“增长伙伴关系”框架下实施项目。美国国际开发署计划提供总计一亿四千五百万美元,帮助改善有利于经济增长的政策环境。美国的支持也通过“千年挑战公司”落实:它在二〇一一年至二〇一六年提供四亿三千四百万美元赠款,支持道路基础设施、减贫和良政项目。
Recently, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration reinstated the Philippines to a Category 1 status. This will redound to mutual benefit for our countries from opening more routes for travel between the United States and the Philippines to creating more business opportunities to facilitate the increased tourism and business travel. 最近,美国联邦航空管理局将菲律宾恢复为一级评级。这将使两国共同受益:开辟更多往返航线,创造更多商机,并促进旅游和商务旅行。
We welcome the substantive agreement between our countries on the terms and concessions for the U.S. to support the Philippines’ request for the extension of special treatment for rice imports until 2017. 我们欢迎两国就美国支持菲律宾请求将大米进口特殊待遇延长至二〇一七年的条款与让步,达成实质性协议。
We also discussed the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which is a high-standard trade agreement that will shape the global and regional economic architecture in the 21st century. The Philippines is working to assert in how participation in TPP can be realized. 我们还讨论了跨太平洋伙伴关系协定。这项高标准贸易协定将塑造二十一世纪全球和地区的经济架构。菲律宾正在研究如何实现加入协定。
The signing of the Comprehensive Agreement on the Bangsamoro last March 27 brings a just and lasting peace within our reach -- a peace that will serve as a strong foundation for stability, inclusivity, and progress in Mindanao. This was born of the steadfast commitment and the hard work of our administration, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, and other partners and stakeholders, the U.S. included. 三月二十七日签署的《邦萨摩洛全面协议》,使公正持久的和平触手可及。这种和平将成为棉兰老岛稳定、包容与进步的坚实基础。协议的诞生,有赖于我国政府、摩洛伊斯兰解放阵线,以及包括美国在内的其他伙伴和利益相关方的坚定承诺与辛勤努力。
We thank President Obama for the United States’ significant assistance and support for the Philippine peace process. Our meeting today was comprehensive, historic and significant, embodying our shared values and aspirations. It afforded President Obama and myself the opportunity to build on the relations between our countries, and discuss our strategic mission for the future of the Philippines-United States relationship -- a relationship that is modern, mature and forward-looking, and one that allows us to surpass challenges towards the benefit of our peoples, the entire region and the world. 感谢奥巴马总统和美国为菲律宾和平进程提供的重要援助与支持。今天的会面全面、具有历史意义,也十分重要,体现了我们共同的价值观和理想。它让奥巴马总统和我得以在两国关系的基础上继续前进,并讨论菲美关系未来的战略使命:建立一种现代、成熟、面向未来的关系,共同克服挑战,造福两国人民、整个地区和世界。
Thank you. 谢谢。
President Obama: Mabuhay. Thank you, President Aquino, for your warm welcome and your very kind words. 奥巴马总统:菲律宾万岁。谢谢阿基诺总统的热情欢迎和友善致辞。
With the President’s indulgence, I want to begin by saying a few words about some terrible storms and tornadoes back home in the United States. Over the weekend, a series of storms claimed at least a dozen lives and damaged or destroyed homes and businesses and communities across multiple states, with the worst toll in Arkansas. So I want to offer my deepest condolences to all those who lost loved ones. I commend the heroic efforts of first responders and neighbors who rushed to help. 请总统容许我先说几句,谈谈美国国内遭受的严重风暴和龙卷风。上周末,一连串风暴夺走至少十几人的生命,损坏或摧毁多个州的住宅、企业和社区,其中阿肯色州受灾最重。我向所有失去亲人的人致以最深切的慰问,也赞扬紧急救援人员和赶去帮助邻居的民众所作的英勇努力。
I want everyone affected by this tragedy to know that FEMA and the federal government is on the ground and will help our fellow Americans in need, working with state and local officials. And I want everybody to know that your country will be there to help you recover and rebuild as long as it takes. 我希望所有受灾者都知道,联邦紧急事务管理局和联邦政府的人员已抵达现场,将与州和地方官员一道帮助需要援助的美国同胞。我也希望大家知道,不论恢复与重建需要多长时间,国家都会陪伴并帮助你们。
Now, this is my first visit to the Philippines as President, and I’m proud to be here as we mark the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Leyte Gulf, when Americans and Filipinos fought together to liberate this nation during World War II. All these years later, we continue to stand shoulder-to-shoulder to uphold peace and security in this region and around the world. 这是我担任总统以来第一次访问菲律宾。值此莱特湾战役七十周年之际来到这里,我深感自豪。在第二次世界大战中,美国人与菲律宾人并肩作战,解放了这个国家。多年后的今天,我们仍肩并肩维护本地区和世界的和平与安全。
So, Benigno, I want to thank you and the Filipino people not only for your generous hospitality today, but for a friendship that has spanned generations. And I’d add that our friendship is deeper and the United States is stronger because of the contributions and patriotism of millions of proud Filipino-Americans. 贝尼尼奥,感谢你和菲律宾人民今天的盛情款待,也感谢延续了几代人的友谊。我还要说,数百万以菲律宾裔身份为荣的美国人作出的贡献和表现出的爱国精神,使我们的友谊更深,也使美国更强大。
As I’ve made clear throughout this trip, the United States is renewing our leadership in the Asia Pacific, and our engagement is rooted in our alliances. And that includes the Philippines, which is the oldest security treaty alliance that we have in Asia. As a vibrant democracy, the Philippines reflects the desire of citizens in this region to live in freedom and to have their universal rights upheld. As one of the fastest-growing economies in Asia, the Philippines represents new opportunities for the trade and investment that creates jobs in both countries. 正如我在这次访问中一再说明的,美国正在重振亚太地区的领导力,地区参与以我们的同盟为根基。菲律宾是我们在亚洲最早的安保条约盟友。作为充满活力的民主国家,菲律宾体现了本地区公民向往自由、希望普遍权利得到保障的愿望。作为亚洲增长最快的经济体之一,菲律宾也为创造两国就业机会的贸易和投资带来了新机遇。
And given its strategic location, the Philippines is a vital partner on issues such as maritime security and freedom of navigation. And let me add that the recent agreement to end the insurgency in the south gives the Philippines an historic opportunity to forge a lasting peace here at home, with greater security and prosperity for the people of that region. 菲律宾还拥有重要的战略位置,因此是海上安全和航行自由等议题上的关键伙伴。我还要补充,近期旨在结束南部叛乱的协议,为菲律宾创造了历史性机会,可以在国内实现持久和平,让当地人民享有更大的安全与繁荣。
I was proud to welcome President Aquino to the White House two years ago, and since then we’ve worked to deepen our cooperation and to modernize our alliances. Our partnership reflects an important Filipino concept -- bayanihan -- the idea that we have to work together to accomplish things that we couldn’t achieve on our own. That’s what we saw last year when Typhoon Yolanda devastated so many communities. Our armed forces and civilians from both our countries worked as one to rescue victims and to deliver lifesaving aid. That’s what friends do for each other. 两年前,我很荣幸在白宫欢迎阿基诺总统。此后,我们一直深化合作、使同盟关系与时俱进。我们的伙伴关系体现了菲律宾一个重要概念——“互助合作”,意思是携手才能完成单独做不到的事。去年“约兰达”台风重创许多社区时,我们就看到了这一点。两国军民团结行动,救助灾民,送去挽救生命的援助。朋友之间就该这样相待。
And, Mr. President, I want to say to you and the people of the Philippines: The United States will continue to stand with you as you recover and rebuild. Our commitment to the Philippines will not waver. 总统先生,我还想对你和菲律宾人民说:在你们恢复和重建期间,美国会继续与你们并肩站在一起。我们对菲律宾的承诺不会动摇。
Today, I’m pleased that we’re beginning an important new chapter in the relationship between our countries, and it starts with our security -- with the new defense cooperation agreement that was signed today. I want to be very clear: The United States is not trying to reclaim old bases or build new bases. At the invitation of the Philippines, American servicemembers will rotate through Filipino facilities. We’ll train and exercise more together so that we’re prepared for a range of challenges, including humanitarian crises and natural disasters like Yolanda. 今天,我很高兴两国关系开启了重要的新篇章,它从安全合作开始,也就是今天签署的新防务合作协议。我要说得非常明确:美国无意收回旧基地或建设新基地。应菲律宾邀请,美国军人将在菲律宾设施轮换驻留。我们将增加联合训练与演习,以便应对各种挑战,包括人道主义危机,以及“约兰达”那样的自然灾害。
We’ll work together to build the Philippines’ defense capabilities and to work with other nations to promote regional stability, such as in the South China Sea. And I’m looking forward to my visit with forces from both our nations tomorrow to honor their service and to look ahead to the future we can shape together. 我们将携手提升菲律宾的防务能力,并与其他国家合作促进地区稳定,例如在南海。我也期待明天与两国军人见面,向他们的服务致敬,并展望我们可以共同塑造的未来。
As we strengthen our bilateral security cooperation, we’re also working together with regional institutions like ASEAN and the East Asia Summit. When we met in the Oval Office two years ago, Benigno and I agreed to promote a common set of rules, founded in respect for international law, that will help the Asia Pacific remain open and inclusive as the region grows and develops. 在加强双边安全合作的同时,我们也正与东盟、东亚峰会等区域机构合作。两年前,我与贝尼尼奥在椭圆形办公室会面时,同意推动一套以尊重国际法为基础的共同规则,帮助亚太地区在发展过程中保持开放和包容。
Today, we have reaffirmed the importance of resolving territorial disputes in the region peacefully, without intimidation or coercion. And in that spirit, I told him that the United States supports his decision to pursue international arbitration concerning territorial disputes in the South China Sea. 今天,我们重申了以和平方式、不经恐吓或胁迫,解决地区领土争端的重要性。基于这一精神,我告诉他,美国支持菲律宾决定就南海领土争端寻求国际仲裁。
Finally, we agreed to keep deepening our economic cooperation. I congratulated President Aquino on the reforms that he’s pursued to make the Philippines more competitive. Through our Partnership for Growth and our Millennium Challenge Corporation compact, we’re going to keep working together to support these efforts so that more Filipinos can share in this nation’s economic progress -- because growth has to be broad-based and it has to be inclusive. 最后,我们同意继续深化经济合作。我祝贺阿基诺总统推行改革,提高菲律宾的竞争力。通过“增长伙伴关系”和“千年挑战公司”项目,我们将继续合作支持这些努力,让更多菲律宾人分享国家经济发展的成果,因为增长必须惠及广泛人群,也必须具有包容性。
We discussed the steps that the Philippines could take to position itself for the Trans-Pacific Partnership. And I encouraged the President to seize the opportunity he’s created by opening the next phase of economic reform and growth. 我们讨论了菲律宾可以采取哪些步骤,为参与跨太平洋伙伴关系协定创造条件。我鼓励总统把握自己开创的机会,开启下一阶段的经济改革与增长。
Today, I’m announcing that my Commerce Secretary, Penny Pritzker, will lead a delegation of American business leaders to the Philippines this June to explore new opportunities. And I’d add that we’ve also committed to work together to address the devastating effects of climate change and to make Philippine communities less vulnerable to extreme storms like Yolanda. 今天,我宣布商务部长彭妮·普里茨克将于今年六月率领美国商界代表团访菲,探索新机遇。我还要补充,我们承诺共同应对气候变化的破坏性影响,降低菲律宾社区遭受“约兰达”那样极端风暴侵袭的风险。
So, Mr. President, let me once again thank you for everything you’ve done to strengthen our alliance and our friendship. I’m looking forward to paying tribute to the bonds between our people at the dinner tonight and to working with you as we write the next chapter in the relationship between our two countries. 总统先生,再次感谢你为加强我们的同盟与友谊所做的一切。我期待今晚的晚宴,向两国人民之间的纽带致敬,也期待与你继续合作,书写双边关系的下一篇章。
Question: Good afternoon, Your Excellencies. President Aquino, President Obama -- welcome to the Philippines. My questions are: How did the United States reassure the Philippines that the U.S. is genuinely committed to countering an increasingly assertive China in the region? Will the U.S. defend the Philippines in case the territorial dispute with China in the West Philippine Sea or the South China Sea becomes an armed conflict? And how do you think will China react to the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement? 提问:两位阁下,下午好。阿基诺总统、奥巴马总统,欢迎来到菲律宾。我的问题是:美国如何使菲律宾确信,它真心致力于应对中国在本地区日益强硬的行为?如果菲律宾与中国在西菲律宾海或南海的领土争端演变为武装冲突,美国会保卫菲律宾吗?你们认为中国会如何回应《加强防务合作协议》?
And what are you going to do with this that is consistent with your position to have the territorial disputes resolved in arbitration? Thank you. 你们会如何运用这项协议,同时保持通过仲裁解决领土争端的立场?谢谢。
President Obama: Well, I’ve been consistent throughout my travels in Asia. We welcome China’s peaceful rise. We have a constructive relationship with China. There is enormous trade, enormous business that’s done between the United States and China. There are a whole range of issues on the international stage in which cooperation between the U.S. and China are vital. So our goal is not to counter China. Our goal is not to contain China. 奥巴马总统:我在这次亚洲之行中始终如一地表示,我们欢迎中国和平崛起。我们与中国有建设性的关系,美中之间有大量贸易和商业往来。在广泛的国际议题上,两国合作都至关重要。因此,我们的目标不是对抗中国,也不是遏制中国。
Our goal is to make sure that international rules and norms are respected, and that includes in the area of maritime disputes. We do not have claims in this area territorially. We’re an Asia Pacific nation and our primary interest is the peaceful resolution of conflict, the freedom of navigation that allows for continued progress and prosperity. And we don’t even take a specific position on the disputes between nations. 我们的目标是确保国际规则和规范受到尊重,海洋争端也不例外。我们在这一地区没有领土主张。作为亚太国家,我们最关切的是冲突得到和平解决,以及维护使地区持续进步繁荣的航行自由。我们甚至不就国家之间的具体争端偏袒一方。
But as a matter of international law and international norms, we don’t think that coercion and intimidation is the way to manage these disputes. And for that reason we’re very supportive of President Benigno’s approach to go before the tribunal for the law of the sea and to seek international arbitration that can resolve this in a diplomatic fashion. 但从国际法和国际规范的角度看,我们认为胁迫与恐吓不是处理争端的办法。因此,我们非常支持贝尼尼奥总统向海洋法法庭提请国际仲裁,以外交方式解决问题。
With respect to the new Defense Cooperation Agreement that’s been signed, the goal here is wide-ranging. We’ve had decades of alliance with the Philippines, but obviously in the 21st century we have to continue to update that. 至于新签署的防务合作协议,它的目标很广泛。菲律宾与美国结盟已有几十年,但在二十一世纪,我们显然还须不断更新这一同盟。
And the goal for this agreement is to build Philippine capacity, to engage in training, to engage in coordination -- not simply to deal with issues of maritime security, but also to enhance our capabilities so that if there’s a natural disaster that takes place, we’re able to potentially respond more quickly; if there are additional threats that may arise, that we are able to work in a cooperative fashion. 这项协议旨在提升菲律宾的能力,开展训练和协调。它不仅要应对海上安全问题,也要加强我们的能力:一旦发生自然灾害,我们或许能更快响应;若出现其他威胁,我们也能合作应对。
This is consistent with, for example, the agreement that we have with Australia, in Darwin. Obviously, we’ve had a longstanding alliance with Australia, but we also recognize that as circumstances change, as capacities change, we have to update that alliance to meet new needs and new challenges. 这与我们同澳大利亚在达尔文达成的协议是一致的。我们与澳大利亚有长期同盟关系,但也认识到,随着环境和能力变化,必须更新同盟,以应对新的需要和挑战。
And so, I think this is going to be a terrific opportunity for us to work with the Philippines to make sure that our navies, our air force are coordinated, to make sure that there’s information-sharing to allow us to respond to new threats, and to work with other countries, ASEAN countries -- Australia, Japan. My hope is, is that at some point we’re going to be able to work cooperatively with China as well, because our goal here is simply to make sure that everybody is operating in a peaceful, responsible fashion. 因此,我认为这是与菲律宾合作的极好机会:让两国海军与空军加强协调,共享信息,以便应对新威胁,并同东盟国家、澳大利亚和日本等伙伴合作。我希望有一天也能与中国合作,因为我们的目标只是确保各方以和平、负责任的方式行事。
When that happens, that allows countries to focus on what’s most important to people day to day, and that is prosperity, growth, jobs. Those are the things that we as leaders should be focused on, need to be focused on. And if we have security arrangements that avoid conflict and dispute, then we’re able to place our attention on where we should be focused. 做到这一点,各国才能专注于人民每天最关心的事:繁荣、增长和就业。作为领导人,我们应当也必须关注这些。如果安全安排能够避免冲突和争端,我们就能把注意力放在该放的地方。
Mr. Carney: The next question comes from Margaret Talev of Bloomberg. 卡尼先生:下一个问题来自彭博社的玛格丽特·塔列夫。
Question: Mr. President, later today we are expecting to hear about new sanctions on people close to President Putin. And I wanted to ask you, do you see this as a way to get to Mr. Putin’s personal wealth? Do you believe that he has amassed personal wealth that’s unreported? Or is it just a means of ratcheting up pressure before a move to sectoral sanctions? You mentioned yesterday specifically the defense industry as an area where it doesn’t make sense to move without Europe moving. I wanted to ask you, are we likely to see defense sanctions soon, banking and energy sanctions soon? 提问:总统先生,预计今天晚些时候会宣布对普京总统身边人士的新制裁。我想问,你是否把这视为触及普京个人财富的方式?你是否认为他积累了未申报的个人财富?还是说,这只是在实施行业制裁之前进一步施压的手段?你昨天特别提到,如果欧洲不采取行动,单独针对国防工业采取行动并不合理。我们是否很快会看到国防、银行业和能源领域的制裁?
What kind of timeframe? 大概是什么时间安排?
And then, President Aquino, if I may, I also wanted to ask you about China and the new agreement. What I wanted to ask you is what message should China take away from the U.S. and the G7’s approach to Russia and Ukraine when it comes to territorial disputes? And do you believe that the military agreement that we’ve just been talking about will in and of itself deter China from being aggressive territorially, or should the U.S. begin developing military options that could be possible contingencies if you needed to go that course? Thanks. 阿基诺总统,如果可以,我还想问你中国和新协议的问题。在领土争端问题上,中国应该从美国和七国集团对俄乌局势的做法中得到什么信息?你认为我们刚讨论的军事协议本身就能遏制中国在领土问题上的强硬行为,还是说,如果局势发展到那一步,美国也应该开始制定可能的军事应急选项?谢谢。
President Obama: You’re right, Margaret, that later today there will be an announcement made, and I can tell you that it builds on the sanctions that were already in place. As I indicated, we saw an opportunity through the Geneva talks to move in the direction of a diplomatic resolution to the situation in Ukraine. 奥巴马总统:玛格丽特,你说得对,今天晚些时候会有公告。我可以告诉你,它是在现有制裁基础上增加措施。正如我所说,日内瓦会谈曾为通过外交途径解决乌克兰局势提供机会。
The G7 statement accurately points out that the government in Kyiv, the Ukrainian government, has, in fact, abided by that agreement and operated in good faith. And we have not seen comparable efforts by the Russians. And as a consequence, we are going to be moving forward with an expanded list of individuals and companies that will be affected by sanctions. They remain targeted. We will also focus on some areas of high-tech defense exports to Russia that we don’t think are appropriate to be exporting in this kind of climate. 七国集团的声明准确指出,基辅的乌克兰政府确实遵守协议,并且一直善意行事。我们却没有看到俄罗斯作出相应努力。因此,我们会扩大受制裁的个人和企业名单,但制裁仍保持定向。我们还将关注一些高技术防务产品对俄出口;在当前局势下,我们认为这类出口并不合适。
The goal here is not to go after Mr. Putin, personally. The goal is to change his calculus with respect to how the current actions that he’s engaging in in Ukraine could have an adverse impact on the Russian economy over the long haul, and to encourage him to actually walk the walk and not just talk the talk when it comes to diplomatically resolving the crisis in Ukraine. There are specific steps that Russia can take. And if it takes those steps, then you can see an election taking place in Ukraine; you can see the rights of all people inside of Ukraine respected. 我们的目标不是针对普京先生个人。我们的目标是让他重新权衡:目前在乌克兰的行动会如何长期损害俄罗斯经济,并鼓励他在外交解决乌克兰危机上付诸行动,而非只说不做。俄罗斯可以采取具体步骤。如果它这样做,乌克兰就能举行选举,国内所有人的权利也能得到尊重。
The Ukrainian government has put forward credible constitutional reforms of the sort that originally Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the south and east said were part of their grievances, the failure to have their voices heard and represented. Kyiv has responded to those. 乌克兰政府已经提出可信的宪法改革,回应南部和东部说俄语的乌克兰人最初提出的部分不满:他们的声音没有被倾听,利益也没有得到代表。基辅已经作出回应。
And so there’s a path here to resolve this. But Russia has not yet chosen to move forward, and these sanctions represent the next stage in a calibrated effort to change Russia’s behavior. We don’t yet know whether it’s going to work. And that’s why the next phase if, in fact, we saw further Russian aggression towards Ukraine could be sectoral sanctions, less narrowly targeted, addressing sectors like banking or the defense industry. 所以,解决问题有路可走。但俄罗斯尚未选择走这条路;这些制裁是我们经过审慎调整、促使俄方改变行为的下一阶段措施。我们还不知道它能否奏效。因此,如果俄罗斯进一步侵略乌克兰,下一阶段就可能是针对银行业或国防工业等领域、更广泛而不那么局限的行业制裁。
So those would be more broad-based. Those aren’t what we’ll be announcing today. Today’s will be building on what we’ve already done and continue to be narrowly focused but will exact some additional costs on the Russians. But we are keeping in reserve additional steps that we could take should the situation escalate further. 那类制裁范围会更广,但不是今天将宣布的措施。今天的制裁建立在既有行动之上,继续精准针对目标,同时让俄罗斯承担额外代价。如果局势进一步升级,我们仍保留采取更多措施的选项。
President Aquino: First of all, I think China shouldn’t be concerned about this agreement, especially if you look at what is being contemplated -- for instance, training for emergency disaster relief operations. 阿基诺总统:首先,我认为中国不必担忧这项协议,尤其是看看协议所设想的事项,比如应急救灾训练。
I’ll give you a perfect example. The Americans have the V-22 Osprey aircraft, which is quite a significant upgrade in capabilities in terms of reaching out to very remote areas. We don’t have a comparable aircraft. We have smaller helicopters. And we had 44 of our provinces devastated by Typhoon Haiyan. Now, the training will not just train our people on how to operate this particular aircraft, but more importantly, even help the Office of Civil Defense, for instance, manage this resource in case a storm or another natural disaster of the scale that transpired does happen. 举个很好的例子。美国拥有鱼鹰式倾转旋翼机,在抵达极偏远地区方面,它的能力有显著提升。我们没有同类飞机,只有较小的直升机。“海燕”台风使我国四十四个省份受灾。有关训练不仅会教我们的人如何操作这种飞机,更重要的是,还能帮助民防办公室等机构学会在同等规模的风暴或其他自然灾害发生时调配这种资源。
Secondly, I think the statements that America has been making with regards to Ukraine is the same message that has been said to China, and I guess not only by America but so many other countries. China itself has said repeatedly that they will and have been conforming to international law. And the rest of the world is I think saying we are expecting you to confirm and, by actions, that which you have already been addressing by words, and not distort international law. 第二,我认为美国就乌克兰问题发表的声明,与它向中国传达的信息相同,而且我想许多其他国家也传达了同样的信息。中国一再表示,它将遵守、也一直遵守国际法。我认为世界其他国家所期待的是:中国通过行动证实自己已经说过的话,而不是歪曲国际法。
The Philippines has not just won through arbitration, but we did remind obviously the President and our dialogue partners that in 2002 they tried to come up with a code of conduct with regards to the South China Sea and the portion which the Philippines claims, which we call the West Philippine Sea. And in 2012, the 10th anniversary, there had still been no progress even -- in the meeting. 菲律宾并非只是通过仲裁取得了进展。我们也提醒总统和我们的对话伙伴:早在2002年,各方就曾试图就南海以及菲律宾主张拥有权益的那片海域,也就是我们所称的西菲律宾海,制定一套行为准则。到了2012年,也就是十周年时,即使经过会议讨论,仍然没有取得进展。
So the Philippines felt it was timely to raise the matter up and to remind everybody that there is no code of conduct that binds us that sets the operational parameters for all to manage any potential conflict. And as a result of that, there has been preparatory meetings towards the formal meeting to try and constitute a code of conduct. 因此,菲律宾认为现在正是再次提出此事的时候,提醒各方目前没有一套具有约束力、能为各方处理潜在冲突规定行动准则的行为准则。为此,各方已经举行筹备会议,准备召开正式会议,以期制定这套准则。
So at the end of the day, we are not a threat militarily to any country. We don’t even have -- and I have said this often enough -- we don’t even have presently a single fighter aircraft in our inventory. Now, we have I think legitimate needs. We have a 36,000 kilometer coastline. We do have an exclusive economic zone. We do have concerns about poaching on our waters and preserving the environment and even protecting endangered species. So I think no country should begrudge us our rights to be able to attend to our concerns and our needs. 归根结底,我们在军事上对任何国家都不构成威胁。我们甚至没有——我已经说过很多次——目前我们的装备中连一架战斗机都没有。不过,我认为我们有正当的需要。我们有长达3.6万公里的海岸线,也有专属经济区。我们关切有人在我们的水域非法捕捞,也关心保护环境,甚至保护濒危物种。所以,我认为任何国家都不应责怪我们行使权利、照顾自身的关切和需要。
Question: Good afternoon, Your Excellencies. This question goes to President Obama, but I would also like to hear the thoughts of President Aquino. I understand the tough balancing act that you need to do between China and your allies in Asia. But do you believe that China’s expansionism is a threat to regional peace and stability? And will the Mutual Defense Treaty apply in the event that the territorial conflict with China escalates into an armed conflict? 记者:下午好,两位阁下。这个问题是问奥巴马总统的,但我也想听听阿基诺总统的看法。我理解,在中国与美国的亚洲盟友之间,你需要艰难地把握平衡。但你是否认为中国的扩张主义威胁地区和平与稳定?如果与中国的领土争端升级为武装冲突,《共同防御条约》是否适用?
President Obama: Well, let me repeat what I said earlier. I think that it is good for the region and good for the world if China is successfully developing, if China is lifting more of its people out of poverty. There are a lot of people in China, and the more they’re able to develop and provide basic needs for their people and work cooperatively with other countries in the region, that’s only going to strengthen the region -- that’s not going to weaken it. 奥巴马总统:我再重复一下刚才说过的话。如果中国发展成功,让更多人民摆脱贫困,这对地区和世界都是好事。中国人口众多,他们越能发展、满足人民的基本需要,并同地区其他国家合作,地区就会越强大,而不会因此削弱。
I do think that, as President Aquino said very persuasively, that China as a large country has already asserted that it is interested in abiding by international law. And really, our message to China consistently on a whole range of issues is we want to be a partner with you in upholding international law. In fact, larger countries have a greater responsibility in abiding by international norms and rules because when we move, it can worry smaller countries if we don’t do it in a way that’s consistent with international law. 我确实认为,正如阿基诺总统有力地指出的,中国作为大国,已经表示愿意遵守国际法。事实上,我们在一系列问题上一贯向中国传达的信息是:我们希望与你们一道维护国际法。大国遵守国际规范和规则的责任更重,因为如果我们的行动不符合国际法,小国就可能感到担忧。
And I think that there are going to be territorial disputes around the world. We have territorial disputes with some of our closest allies. I suspect that there are some islands and rocks in and around Canada and the United States where there are probably still some arguments dating back to the 1800s. But we don’t go around sending ships and threatening folks. What we do is we sit down and we have some people in a room -- it’s boring, it’s not exciting, but it’s usually a good way to work out these problems and work out these issues. 我认为,世界各地都会有领土争端。我们与一些最亲密的盟友之间也有领土争议。我猜加拿大和美国周边还有一些岛屿和礁石,可能仍存在可以追溯到19世纪的争论。但我们不会到处派船去威胁别人。我们会坐下来,让有关人员在一间屋子里谈。这很枯燥,也不刺激,但通常是解决这些问题的好办法。
And I think that all the countries that I’ve spoken to in the region during the course of my trip -- Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, and now the Philippines -- their message has been the same everywhere I go, which is they would like to resolve these issues peacefully and diplomatically. That’s why I think that the approach that President Aquino has been taking, putting this before international arbitration, is a sound one. 我此次访问期间与地区各国——日本、韩国、马来西亚,现在还有菲律宾——交谈,听到的信息到处都一样:他们希望以和平、外交方式解决这些问题。因此,我认为阿基诺总统将争议提交国际仲裁的做法是稳妥的。
And if China I think listens to its neighbors and recognizes that there’s another approach to resolve these disputes, what China will find is they’ve got ready and willing partners throughout the Asia Pacific region that want to work with them on trade and commerce and selling goods and buying goods. And it’s inevitable that China is going to be a dominant power in this region just by sheer size. Nobody, I think, denies that. 我想,如果中国倾听邻国的意见,认识到还有另一种解决争端的方式,就会发现整个亚太地区都有现成而且愿意合作的伙伴,希望与中国开展贸易、买卖商品。仅凭体量,中国就必然会成为这一地区的重要力量。我想没人否认这一点。
The question is just whether other countries in the region are also able to succeed and prosper on their own terms and tend to the various interests and needs that they and their people have as well. And that’s what we support. 问题只是,地区其他国家能否也依照自己的意愿取得成功、实现繁荣,并照顾自己及其人民的各种利益和需要。我们支持的就是这一点。
President Aquino: I think from the onset, our message to China has been I think we’re all focused on achieving greater prosperity for all our respective peoples, and prosperity and continued prosperity does not happen in a vacuum. There has to be stability. And in turn, they have responded that the disputes in the South China Sea/West Philippine Sea are not the end all, be all of our relationships. And we have had good cooperation with them on so many different fronts, and perhaps one could even argue that this is the only sore point in our relationship. 阿基诺总统:我认为,从一开始,我们向中国传达的信息就是:我们都致力于让各自的人民更加繁荣,而繁荣及其持续增长不可能凭空发生,必须有稳定作为基础。中国也回应说,南海或西菲律宾海的争端并非双方关系的全部。我们在许多不同领域合作良好,或许甚至可以说,这只是双方关系中唯一令人不快的问题。
Now, having said that, perhaps -- we have tried to work on that particular premise of building up our ties on different aspects where there is no conflict or very little conflict. And in this particular instance, I have to find the way and means by which we can both achieve our respective goals, which I believe are not -- or should not be mutually exclusive, but rather should be inclusive if at the end of the day, we do want to strive for the prosperity of our respective peoples. 话虽如此,我们一直努力依据这一认识,在没有冲突或冲突很少的其他方面加强联系。在这一具体问题上,我必须找到办法,让双方都能实现各自的目标。我相信这些目标并不——也不应——相互排斥;如果我们最终都希望为各自人民争取繁荣,它们反而应当彼此兼容。
That I think has to be the primordial concern, rather than disputes on a few rocks that are not possible to be inhabited. And I think in due time, given the fact that there’s so much commerce that traverses this particular -- both in the maritime and the air domain -- China, which has achieved its goals of improving the life of its people, will see the soundness of this proposal and perhaps will act more, shall we say, consistently and actively towards achieving that stability for all. That is our hope. 我认为,这才应当是首要关切,而不是围绕几块无法居住的礁石争执。大量海运和空运贸易经过这一地区。中国已经实现改善人民生活的目标,我想假以时日,它会看到这一建议的合理性,也许会采取更为一致、更为积极的行动,为所有人实现稳定。这是我们的希望。
Question: Thank you to both Presidents. President Aquino, as a journalist, I’d like to ask you why 26 journalists have been killed since you took office. And I understand that there have only been suspects arrested in six of those cases. What are you doing to fix that? 记者:谢谢两位总统。阿基诺总统,作为记者,我想问您,为什么自您上任以来有26名记者遇害?据我了解,其中只有六起案件逮捕了嫌疑人。您正采取什么措施解决这个问题?
President Obama, as you grappled here with all these national security challenges, I have two questions. One, back home we’ve learned that 40 military veterans died while they were waiting for health care, a very tragic situation. I know you don’t run the Phoenix Office of Veterans Affairs, but as Commander-in-Chief, what specifically will you pledge to fix that? 奥巴马总统,您在此面对诸多国家安全挑战,我有两个问题。第一,我们在国内得知,40名退伍军人在等待医疗服务期间死亡,这是非常悲惨的事。我知道您并不直接管理凤凰城退伍军人事务办公室,但作为三军统帅,您具体承诺如何解决这一问题?
And, secondly, more broadly -- big picture -- as you end this trip, I don’t think I have to remind you there have been a lot of unflattering portraits of your foreign policy right now. And rather than get into all the details or red lines, et cetera, I’d like to give you a chance to lay out what your vision is more than five years into office, what you think the Obama doctrine is in terms of what your guiding principle is on all of these crises and how you answer those critics who say they think the doctrine is weakness. 第二,从更广的角度看,在您结束此行之际,我想不必提醒您,目前外界对您的外交政策有许多不利评价。我不想纠缠所有细节或所谓红线等问题,而是想请您说明:执政五年多后,您的愿景是什么?面对这些危机,所谓“奥巴马主义”的指导原则是什么?您如何回应那些认为这一主义代表软弱的批评者?
President Obama: Well, Ed, I doubt that I’m going to have time to lay out my entire foreign policy doctrine. And there are actually some complimentary pieces as well about my foreign policy, but I’m not sure you ran them. 奥巴马总统:嗯,埃德,我恐怕没有时间把我的整套外交政策原则都讲完。其实也有一些赞扬我外交政策的文章,不过我不确定你们有没有播报。
Here’s I think the general takeaway from this trip. Our alliances in the Asia Pacific have never been stronger; I can say that unequivocally. Our relationship with ASEAN countries in Southeast Asia have never been stronger. I don’t think that’s subject to dispute. As recently as a decade ago, there were great tensions between us and Malaysia, for example. And I think you just witnessed the incredible warmth and strength of the relationship between those two countries. 我认为这次访问传递的总体结论是:我们在亚太地区的同盟关系从未如此牢固,这一点我可以毫不含糊地说。我们与东南亚东盟国家的关系也从未如此牢固。我认为这无可争议。比如,就在十年前,我们与马来西亚之间还有很大紧张关系。我想你刚才已经见证了两国关系令人瞩目的热情与牢固程度。
We’re here in the Philippines signing a defense agreement. Ten years ago, fifteen years ago there was enormous tensions around our defense relationship with the Philippines. And so it’s hard to square whatever it is that the critics are saying with facts on the ground, events on the ground here in the Asia Pacific region. Typically, criticism of our foreign policy has been directed at the failure to use military force. 我们如今来到菲律宾,签署防务协议。十年前、十五年前,我们与菲律宾的防务关系还存在巨大紧张。因此,不论批评者说些什么,都很难与亚太地区眼前的事实和正在发生的事相吻合。对我们外交政策的批评通常指向一点:我们没有动用武力。
And the question I think I would have is, why is it that everybody is so eager to use military force after we’ve just gone through a decade of war at enormous costs to our troops and to our budget? And what is it exactly that these critics think would have been accomplished? 而我想问的是,我们刚经历了一场长达十年的战争,军人和预算都付出了巨大代价,为什么人人又如此急于动用武力?这些批评者究竟认为,那样做能取得什么成果?
My job as Commander-in-Chief is to deploy military force as a last resort, and to deploy it wisely. And, frankly, most of the foreign policy commentators that have questioned our policies would go headlong into a bunch of military adventures that the American people had no interest in participating in and would not advance our core security interests. 作为三军统帅,我的职责是把动用武力当作最后手段,并审慎使用。坦率地说,许多质疑我们政策的外交评论人士,会一头扎进一系列军事冒险,而美国人民无意参与这些冒险,它们也不会增进我们的核心安全利益。
So if you look at Syria, for example, our interest is in helping the Syrian people, but nobody suggests that us being involved in a land war in Syria would necessarily accomplish this goal. And I would note that those who criticize our foreign policy with respect to Syria, they themselves say, no, no, no, we don’t mean sending in troops. Well, what do you mean? Well, you should be assisting the opposition -- well, we’re assisting the opposition. What else do you mean? Well, perhaps you should have taken a strike in Syria to get chemical weapons out of Syria. 以叙利亚为例,我们的利益在于帮助叙利亚人民,但没有人说美国卷入叙利亚地面战争就一定能实现这一目标。我还要指出,那些批评我们叙利亚政策的人自己也说:“不,不,不,我们不是说要派兵。”那么,你们是什么意思?“你们应该援助反对派”——我们已经在援助反对派。还有呢?“也许你们应该对叙利亚发动打击,把化学武器清除出去。”
Well, it turns out we’re getting chemical weapons out of Syria without having initiated a strike. So what else are you talking about? And at that point it kind of trails off. 然而事实是,我们没有发动打击,叙利亚的化学武器却正在被清除。那么你们还想说什么?说到这里,他们的主张往往就没了下文。
In Ukraine, what we’ve done is mobilize the international community. Russia has never been more isolated. A country that used to be clearly in its orbit now is looking much more towards Europe and the West, because they’ve seen that the arrangements that have existed for the last 20 years weren’t working for them. And Russia is having to engage in activities that have been rejected uniformly around the world. 在乌克兰问题上,我们所做的是动员国际社会。俄罗斯从未如此孤立。一个过去显然处于其势力范围内的国家,如今更倾向于欧洲和西方,因为乌克兰人已经看到,过去20年存在的安排对他们并不奏效。俄罗斯则不得不采取受到全世界一致反对的行动。
And we’ve been able to mobilize the international community to not only put diplomatic pressure on Russia, but also we’ve been able to organize European countries who many were skeptical would do anything to work with us in applying sanctions to Russia. Well, what else should we be doing? Well, we shouldn’t be putting troops in, the critics will say. That’s not what we mean. Well, okay, what are you saying? Well, we should be arming the Ukrainians more. Do people actually think that somehow us sending some additional arms into Ukraine could potentially deter the Russian army? 我们不仅动员国际社会对俄罗斯施加外交压力,还组织了欧洲国家与我们一道实施制裁,其中许多国家原本被认为不愿有所行动。那么我们还该做什么?批评者会说:“我们不应该派兵,我们不是这个意思。”好吧,那你们是什么意思?“我们应该给乌克兰人更多武器。”难道真有人认为,我们再向乌克兰运送一些武器,就能威慑俄罗斯军队吗?
Or are we more likely to deter them by applying the sort of international pressure, diplomatic pressure and economic pressure that we’re applying? 还是说,我们正在施加的国际压力、外交压力和经济压力更可能起到威慑作用?
The point is that for some reason many who were proponents of what I consider to be a disastrous decision to go into Iraq haven’t really learned the lesson of the last decade, and they keep on just playing the same note over and over again. Why? I don’t know. But my job as Commander-in-Chief is to look at what is it that is going to advance our security interests over the long term, to keep our military in reserve for where we absolutely need it. 关键在于,不知为何,许多当年支持进军伊拉克这个在我看来灾难性决定的人,并没有真正从过去十年吸取教训,却一遍又一遍地重复同一套论调。为什么?我不知道。但作为三军统帅,我的职责是判断怎样才能长期增进我们的安全利益,把军力留给绝对需要动用它的地方。
There are going to be times where there are disasters and difficulties and challenges all around the world, and not all of those are going to be immediately solvable by us. 世界各地有时会出现灾难、困难和挑战,而并非所有这些问题都能由我们立即解决。
But we can continue to speak out clearly about what we believe. Where we can make a difference using all the tools we’ve got in the toolkit, well, we should do so. And if there are occasions where targeted, clear actions can be taken that would make a difference, then we should take them. We don't do them because somebody sitting in an office in Washington or New York think it would look strong. That's not how we make foreign policy. 但我们可以继续清楚地表明我们的信念。在能够有所作为的地方,应当运用我们手头的一切工具。如果有机会采取目标明确、能够发挥作用的行动,我们就应该采取。我们不会因为华盛顿或纽约某间办公室里的人觉得那样显得强硬,就采取行动。外交政策不是这样制定的。
And if you look at the results of what we've done over the last five years, it is fair to say that our alliances are stronger, our partnerships are stronger, and in the Asia Pacific region, just to take one example, we are much better positioned to work with the peoples here on a whole range of issues of mutual interest. 看看过去五年我们工作的成果,可以公允地说,我们的同盟更加牢固,伙伴关系更加紧密。仅以亚太地区为例,我们如今能够在一系列共同关心的问题上,与这里的人民更好地合作。
And that may not always be sexy. That may not always attract a lot of attention, and it doesn’t make for good argument on Sunday morning shows. But it avoids errors. You hit singles, you hit doubles; every once in a while we may be able to hit a home run. But we steadily advance the interests of the American people and our partnership with folks around the world. 这样的做法未必总是引人注目,未必总能吸引很多关注,也未必能成为周日早间电视节目里的精彩辩题。但它能避免失误。打出一垒安打、二垒安打;偶尔也可能打出全垒打。与此同时,我们稳步推进美国人民的利益,以及与世界各地人民的伙伴关系。
Question: The Veterans Affairs -- 记者:退伍军人事务的问题——
President Obama: You got me all worked up on the other one. The moment we heard about the allegations around these 40 individuals who had died in Phoenix, I immediately ordered the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, General Shinseki, to investigate. We also have an IG investigation taking place. And so we take the allegations very seriously. 奥巴马总统:刚才那个问题让我说得太投入了。我们一听说凤凰城这40人死亡的指控,我就立即指示退伍军人事务部长新关将军展开调查。监察长也正在调查。因此,我们非常严肃地对待这些指控。
That is consistent with what has been my rock-solid commitment to make sure that our veterans are cared for. I believe that if somebody has served our nation then they have to get the benefits and services that they have earned. And my budgets have consistently reflected that. That's why we’ve resourced the Veterans Affairs office more in terms of increases than any other department or agency in my government. 这与我始终坚定不移、确保退伍军人得到照顾的承诺是一致的。我相信,任何为国家服过役的人,都必须获得他们应得的福利和服务。我的预算始终体现了这一点。正因如此,在我政府的各部门和机构中,我们为退伍军人事务部门增加的资源比任何其他部门或机构都多。
That doesn’t mean, though, that some folks may still not be getting the help that they need. And we're going to find out if, in fact, that's the case, and I'm interested in working with everybody, whether it's our outstanding veteran service organizations or Congress, to make sure that there is not a single veteran in the United States who needs help -- whether because they’re homeless, because they’re sick, because they’re looking for a job. I want to make sure that they are getting the help that they need. 不过,这并不意味着所有人都已经获得所需帮助。我们会查明事实是否如此。我愿与各方合作,无论是杰出的退伍军人服务组织,还是国会,确保美国任何一位需要帮助的退伍军人——无论是无家可归、身患疾病,还是正在找工作——都能得到所需帮助。
President Aquino: With regards to the killing of journalists, perhaps we should say from the outset that I don't have the figures right here before me. But we did set up an interagency committee to look on extralegal killings and forced disappearances, torture, and other grave violations of right to life, liberty and security of persons. 阿基诺总统:关于记者遇害的问题,或许首先应当说明,我手边没有具体数字。但我们确实成立了跨部门委员会,调查法外处决、强迫失踪、酷刑,以及其他严重侵害个人生命、自由和人身安全权利的行为。
And in this particular body, there has been -- I have the figures for labor-related issues -- there were 62 suspected cases of extrajudicial killings referred to it, and of the 62 investigations before this committee, there have been 10 that have been determined to fulfill the criteria and the definitions of what constitutes an extrajudicial killing. Of the 10 cases that have been determined to be possible EJK cases, only one happened during our watch -- the case of Mr. Estrellado. 在这个委员会处理的案件中——我手头有与劳工有关的问题的数据——共有62起疑似法外处决案件提交给它调查。在这62起调查中,有10起被认定符合构成法外处决的标准和定义。而在这10起可能属于法外处决的案件里,只有一起发生在我们执政期间,就是埃斯特雷亚多先生的案件。
Now, as far as journalists are concerned, perhaps the track record speaks for itself. The Maguindanao massacre involved something like 52 journalists, and there are presently something like over 100 people who have been indicted for this crime and are undergoing trial. That doesn’t mean that we have stopped trying to look for others potentially involved in this particular killing. And may we just state for the record that even when it comes to journalists, it is not a policy of this state to silence critics. 至于记者,我想我们的处理记录本身就说明问题。马京达瑙大屠杀涉及大约52名记者,目前已有一百多人因这起罪行受到起诉,正在接受审判。这不意味着我们已经停止追查可能参与这起杀戮的其他人。我们也要正式说明,即使涉及记者,政府的政策也不是压制批评者。
All you have to do would be to turn on the TV, the radio, or look at any newspaper to find an abundance of criticisms. 你只要打开电视、收听广播,或翻开任何一份报纸,就会发现批评意见比比皆是。
Now, having said that, investigations have been done. Anybody who has been killed obviously is a victim, and investigations have been ongoing. If at times we do not reveal the discoveries by our intelligence agencies and security services, perhaps we are very sensitive to personal relationships by the people who are deceased who were killed not because of professional activities, but, shall we say, other issues. But having said that, they were killed. That is against the law. And the people will have to be found, prosecuted and sent to jail. 话虽如此,调查已经展开。任何遇害者显然都是受害人,调查也一直在进行。有时我们没有公布情报和安全部门的发现,或许是因为我们非常顾及死者的人际关系:他们遇害并非由于职业活动,而是因为我们姑且称作其他问题的原因。但无论如何,他们遇害了。这是违法行为。凶手必须被找到、起诉并送进监狱。
The fourth plank of my promise when I ran for election was judicial reform, and this is still a work in progress. We want to protect all the rights of every individual but also ensure that the speedy portion of the promise also happens. Unfortunately, speed is not a hallmark of our current judicial system and there are various steps -- laws, amendments, particular laws -- even a rethink of the whole process to try and ensure the speedy disposition of justice. 我竞选时承诺的第四项重点是司法改革,这仍是一项正在推进的工作。我们希望保护每个人的全部权利,同时也确保关于迅速审理的承诺得以兑现。遗憾的是,我们目前的司法体系并不以速度见长,因此需要采取多种措施——制定法律、修订特定法律,甚至重新思考整个程序——以确保司法能够迅速作出裁决。
Thank you. 谢谢。
President Obama: Thank you very much, everybody. 奥巴马总统:非常感谢大家。