Joint Press Conference with Raul Castro

President Raul Castro: [As interpreted.] Mr. President Barack Obama, we are pleased to welcome you on this, the first visit of a President of the United States of America to our country in 88 years. 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:(经译员翻译)巴拉克·奥巴马总统先生,我们很高兴欢迎您的到访。这是88年来美利坚合众国总统首次对我国进行访问。

We have observed that in the 15 months that have passed since the decision was made to establish our diplomatic relations, we have obtained concrete results. We were able to resume direct postal exchanges and we signed an agreement to resume commercial flights. 我们注意到,自决定建立外交关系以来的15个月里,我们取得了切实成果。我们得以恢复直接通邮,并签署了恢复商业航班的协议。

We have signed two memorandums of understanding on the protection of the environment and maritime areas, and another one to secure the safety of sea navigation. Today, another one will be signed on cooperation of the area of agriculture. At the moment, another set of bilateral instruments are being negotiated to cooperate in such areas as counter narcotics, the safety of commerce, and travelers and health. 我们签署了两份关于环境保护和海洋区域的谅解备忘录,以及一份关于海上航行安全的谅解备忘录。今天,我们还将签署一份农业领域合作的谅解备忘录。目前,双方正在谈判另一批双边合作文件,涉及禁毒、商业与旅客安全以及卫生等领域。

About this last issue, we have agreed to deepen our cooperation in the prevention and treatment of transmissible diseases, such as Zika, and non-transmissible chronic diseases, cancer included. 关于最后一项议题,我们已同意深化在传染病(如寨卡病毒)和非传染性慢性病(包括癌症)预防与治疗方面的合作。

This cooperation is beneficial not only for Cuba and the United States, but also for our hemisphere at large. Following the decisions made by President Obama to modify the application of some aspects of the blockade, Cuban enterprises and their American counterparts are working to identify possible commercial operations that could materialize in the still restrictive framework of existing regulations. 这种合作不仅有益于古巴和美国,也有益于整个半球。继奥巴马总统决定修改封锁某些方面的实施之后,古巴企业与美国同行正努力探寻可能的商业合作,在现行法规仍具限制性的框架内争取落地。

The fact is that some have already materialized, especially in the area of telecommunications -- an area in which our country already has a program designed on the basis of its priorities and the necessary technological sovereignty, one that can secure the appropriate (ph) views and the service of national interests. 事实上,部分合作已经落地,特别是在电信领域——我国已根据自身优先事项和必要的技术主权制定了相关规划,能够确保合理预期并服务于国家利益。

Progress has also been made toward the acquisition of medicines, medical materiel and equipment for power generation and environmental protection, these among others. Much more could be done if the blockade were lifted. 在药品、医疗物资以及发电和环保设备采购等方面也取得了进展,不胜枚举。如果封锁得以解除,我们还能做得更多。

We recognize the position of President Obama and his Administration against the blockade, and his repeated appeals to Congress to have it removed. The most recent measures adopted by his Administration are positive but insufficient. I had the opportunity to discuss with the President other steps that we think could be taken in order to remove restrictions that remain in force, and make a significant contribution to the debunking of the blockade. 我们认可奥巴马总统及其政府反对封锁的立场,以及他多次呼吁国会解除封锁的努力。其政府最近采取的措施是积极的,但还不够。我已向总统提出了我们认为可以采取的其他步骤,以消除仍然生效的限制,为打破封锁作出重要贡献。

This is essential, because the blockade remains in force and because it contains discouraging elements and intimidating effects and extra- territorial outreach. 这一点至关重要,因为封锁依然存在,且具有令人气馁的威慑作用和域外效力。

I put forward to the President some examples on this, showing their negative consequences for both Cuba and other countries. The blockade stands as the most important obstacle to our economic development and the wellbeing of the Cuba people. That's why its removal will be of the essence to normalize bilateral relations. And actually, it will also bring benefits to the Cuban emigrants who wish the best for their families and their country. 我向总统列举了一些相关事例,说明其对古巴和其他国家造成的负面影响。封锁是我国经济发展和古巴人民福祉的最大障碍。因此,解除封锁对于实现双边关系正常化至关重要。实际上,这也将为那些心系家庭和祖国的古巴侨民带来福祉。

In order to move forward towards normalization, it will also be necessary to return the territory illegally occupied by Guantanamo Naval Base. Since they stand as the two main obstacles, these issues were again dealt with in the editorial ran on March 9 by the official newspaper of the Communist Party of Cuba. 要推进双边关系正常化,还必须归还关塔那摩海军基地非法占领的领土。由于这两大障碍的存在,古巴共产党机关报3月9日的社论再次谈及了这些问题。

And again, only four days ago, in the press conference offered by our Foreign Minister Bruno Rodriguez, those pieces extensively reported by the media. 就在四天前,我国外交部长布鲁诺·罗德里格斯举行的记者会上也对此作了大量报道,媒体已广泛报道。

Other policies should also be abolished for normal relations to develop between the United States and Cuba. No one should intend to have the Cuban people renounce the destiny it chose in freedom and sovereignty, the same for which you have made enormous sacrifices. 要发展美古正常关系,还必须废除其他一些政策。任何人都不应企图让古巴人民放弃他们在自由与主权中选择的命运——他们为此作出了巨大牺牲。

We also discussed international issues, particularly those that could have an impact on regional peace and stability. We had thought to discuss other issues, but we did not have enough time. I had planned to raise our concern over the destabilization some are trying to promote in Venezuela, something which we consider to be counterproductive to the overall situation in the continent. I did not have the chance to raise with him, I'm raising it here. 我们还讨论了国际问题,特别是可能影响地区和平与稳定的议题。我们原本打算讨论其他问题,但时间不够。我本想提出我们对一些人试图在委内瑞拉制造动荡的担忧,我们认为这不利于整个大陆的局势。我没能有机会当面向他提出,所以在这里提出来。

Likewise, we talked about the ongoing peace process in Colombia and the effort to put an end to that conflict. There are profound differences between our countries that will not go away. Since we hold different concepts on many subjects such as political systems, democracy, the exercise of human rights, social justice, international relations and world peace and stability. 同样,我们谈到了哥伦比亚正在进行的和平进程,以及结束那场冲突的努力。我们两国之间存在着深刻分歧,这些分歧不会消失。因为我们在政治制度、民主、人权行使、社会公正、国际关系以及世界和平与稳定等诸多问题上持有不同理念。

We defend human rights. In our view, civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights are indivisible, interdependent and universal. Actually, we find it inconceivable that a government does not defend and insure the right to health care, education, Social Security with provision and development, equal pay and the rights of children. We oppose political manipulation and double standards in the approach to human rights. 我们捍卫人权。我们认为,公民权利、政治权利、经济权利、社会权利和文化权利是不可分割、相互依存且具有普遍性的。实际上,我们认为一个政府不捍卫和保障医疗权、受教育权、有保障的社会保障与发展、同工同酬以及儿童权利,是不可想象的。我们反对在人权问题上搞政治操纵和双重标准。

Cuba has much to say and show on this issue. That is why I have reiterated to the President our willingness to continue moving forward with the dialogue on this matter that was already initiated. 古巴在这个问题上有很多话要说,也有很多可以展示。这就是为什么我向总统重申,我们愿意继续推进已经开启的人权对话。

On December 17th, 2014, as we announced the decision to re- establish diplomatic relations, I said that we should learn the art of co- existing with our difference in a civilized manner. In my remarks to Parliament on July 15, 2015, I said changing everything that needs to be changed is the sovereign and exclusive concern of Cubans. 2014年12月17日,当我们宣布恢复外交关系的决定时,我曾说过,我们应该学会以文明的方式与分歧共存。2015年7月15日,我在议会的讲话中说过,改变一切需要改变的东西,是古巴人主权范围内的专属事务。

The revolutionary government is willing to advance to a normalization of relations, for it is convinced that both countries can co-exist and cooperate in a civilized manner and for the mutual benefit regardless of existing and future differences and thus contribute to peace, security, stability, development and equity in our continent and around the world. 革命政府愿意推进关系正常化,因为它坚信两国能够以文明方式、为互利共赢开展合作,无论现存及未来的分歧如何,并因此为我们所在大陆乃至全世界的和平、安全、稳定、发展与公平作出贡献。

Today, I reaffirm that we should exercise the art of civilized co-existence, which involves accepting and respecting differences and preventing these from becoming the center of our relationship. 今天,我重申我们应当践行文明共处的艺术,这意味着接受并尊重分歧,不让分歧成为双边关系的中心。

We should instead promote links that can benefit both our countries and peoples while focusing on those things that bring us closer and not on those that pull us apart. We agree that a long and complex path still lies ahead. But what is most important is that we have started taking the first steps to build a new type of relationship, one that has never existed between Cuba and the United States. 相反,我们应当促进惠及两国和两国人民的联系,聚焦于那些拉近我们距离的事物,而非那些让我们疏远的事物。我们一致认为,前方仍有漫长而复杂的道路。但最重要的是,我们已经开始迈出第一步,去构建一种新型关系,一种古美之间从未有过的关系。

Actually, destroying a bridge can be an easy and quick undertaking. However, its solid reconstruction can prove a lengthy and challenging endeavor. After four failed attempts and giving proof of the will and perseverance, on September 2, 2013, American swimmer Diane Nyad managed to cross the Florida Strait swimming without an anti-shark cage to protect her. 事实上,摧毁一座桥梁可能是轻而易举、转瞬即逝的事。然而,牢固地重建它则可能是一项漫长而充满挑战的事业。在经历了四次失败的尝试并展现出决心与毅力之后,2013年9月2日,美国游泳运动员戴安娜·尼亚德成功横渡佛罗里达海峡,全程没有防鲨笼的保护。

To that exploit of conquering the geographical differences between our two countries. It was for that exploit that on August 30th, 2013, as the national anthems of Cuba and the United States were played she was presented with the Order of Sport Merit, a declaration awarded by the State Counsel. Such feat carries a powerful message. 这一壮举跨越了两国之间的地理隔阂。正是由于这一壮举,2013年8月30日,在古巴和美国国歌声中,她被授予国务委员会颁发的"体育功绩勋章"。这一壮举传递着强有力的信息。

One that should serve as an example to honor bilateral relations. For it confirms that if she could do it, then we can do it too. President Obama, I reiterate our appreciation for his visit and the willingness of the government of Cuba to continue moving forward in the well being of our countries. 它应当成为双边关系的典范。因为它证明了,如果她能做到,我们也能做到。奥巴马总统,我再次感谢您的来访,并重申古巴政府愿意继续为两国人民的福祉向前迈进。

Thank you very much. 非常感谢。

President Obama: Buenas tardes. President Castro, to you, the Cuban government and the Cuban people, thank you for the welcome that you have extended to me, to my family, and to my delegation. For more than half a century, the sight of a U.S. President here in Havana would have been unimaginable. But this is a new day -- es un nuevo día -- between our two countries. 奥巴马总统:下午好。卡斯特罗总统,感谢您、古巴政府和古巴人民对我、我的家人以及代表团的热情欢迎。半个多世纪以来,美国总统出现在哈瓦那,是难以想象的景象。但这是崭新的一天——这是我们两国之间新的一天。

With your indulgence, Mr. President, I want to go just briefly off topic because during this weekend, I received news that one of our outstanding United States Armed Service members, Marine Staff Sergeant Louis F. Cardin of Temecula, California, was killed in northern Iraq as we assisted the Iraqi government in dealing with ISIL, the terrorist organization there. And I just wanted to give my thoughts and prayers to the family there and those who have been injured. It's a 总统先生,请允许我暂时偏离主题,因为本周末我收到消息,我们杰出的美国军人之一、来自加利福尼亚州蒂梅丘拉的海军陆战队上士路易斯·F·卡丁在伊拉克北部阵亡,当时我们正在协助伊拉克政府打击那里的恐怖组织"伊斯兰国"。我谨向他的家人以及受伤人员表达我的哀思与祈祷。

It's a reminder that even as we embark on this historic visit, there are U.S. Armed Service members who are sacrificing each and every day on behalf of our freedom and our safety. So I’m grateful to them. 这提醒我们,即便在我们开启这次历史性访问之际,仍有美国军人为了我们的自由与安全每天在牺牲。因此,我向他们致以敬意。

My wife, Michelle, and I brought our daughters -- and by the way, they don't always want to go with us; they’re teenagers now. They have friends at home and they have things to do -- but they wanted to come to Cuba because they understood, and we wanted to show them, the beauty of Cuba and its people. 我和夫人米歇尔带着两个女儿一起来了——顺便说一句,她们并不总愿意和我们同行,她们现在是青少年了,在家里有朋友,有自己的事要做——但她们愿意来古巴,因为她们明白,我们也想向她们展示古巴的美和古巴人民的美。

We were moved by the Cubans who received us yesterday, smiling and waving, as we drove in from the airport. We were grateful for the opportunity to experience Old Havana -- had some excellent Cuban food. Our visit to the Cathedral was a reminder of the values that we share, of the deep faith that sustains so many Cubans and Americans. And it also gave me an opportunity to express my gratitude to Cardinal Ortega, who, along with His Holiness Pope Francis, did so much to support the improved relations between our governments. 昨天我们从机场驱车进城时,古巴人民微笑着挥手欢迎我们,令我们深受感动。我们有幸体验了哈瓦那老城——品尝了美味的古巴美食。我们参观了大教堂,这让我们想起了我们共有的价值观,以及支撑着无数古巴人和美国人的深厚信仰。

This morning, I was honored to pay tribute to José Martí -- not only his role in Cuban independence, but the profound words that he wrote and spoke in support of liberty and freedom everywhere. 今天上午,我荣幸地向何塞·马蒂致敬——不仅致敬他在古巴独立中所发挥的作用,也致敬他为支持世界各地的自由与解放而写下和发表的深刻言论。

I bring with me the greetings and the friendship of the American people. In fact, I’m joined on this trip by nearly 40 members of Congress -- Democrats and Republicans. This is the largest such delegation of my presidency, and it indicates the excitement and interest in America about the process that we’ve undertaken. These members of Congress recognize that our new relationship with the Cuban people is in the interest of both nations. I’m 我带来了美国人民的问候与友谊。事实上,陪同我此次访问的有近40名国会议员——民主党人和共和党人都有。这是我总统任期内规模最大的此类代表团,也表明美国国内对我们所开启的进程充满兴奋与兴趣。

I’m also joined by some of America’s top business leaders and entrepreneurs because we’re ready to pursue more commercial ties, which create jobs and opportunity for Cubans and Americans alike. 我也带来了一些美国顶尖商界领袖和企业家,因为我们已准备好拓展更多商业联系,为古巴人和美国人创造就业和机遇。

And I’m especially pleased that I’m joined on this trip by so many Cuban Americans. For them, and for the more than two million proud Cuban Americans across the United States, this is a moment filled with great emotion. Ever since we made it easier to travel between our countries, more Cuban Americans are coming home. For many, this is a time of new hope for the future. 我特别高兴的是,这么多古巴裔美国人陪同我访问。对他们而言,对全美200多万自豪的古巴裔美国人而言,这是一个百感交集的时刻。自从我们放宽两国间的旅行限制以来,越来越多的古巴裔美国人踏上了返乡之路。对许多人来说,这是一个对未来充满新希望的时刻。

So, President Castro, I want to thank you for the courtesy and the spirit of openness that you’ve shown during our talks. At our meeting in Panama last year, you said that we’re willing to discuss every issue, and everything is on the table. So with your understanding, my statement will be a little longer than usual. 因此,卡斯特罗总统,感谢您在会谈中展现出的礼貌与开放精神。去年我们在巴拿马会晤时,您说我们愿意讨论每一个问题,一切都可以摆到桌面上。所以请您谅解,我的发言会比平时稍长一些。

President Castro always jokes with me about how long Castro brothers’ speeches can be. But I’m going to actually go a little longer than you probably today, with your indulgence. We have a half a century of work to catch up on. 卡斯特罗总统总跟我开玩笑,说卡斯特罗兄弟的演讲有多么冗长。不过今天,恕我冒昧,我的演讲可能比您的还要长一些。我们有半个世纪的工作要补。

Our growing engagement with Cuba is guided by one overarching goal -- advancing the mutual interests of our two countries, including improving the lives of our people, both Cubans and Americans. That’s why I’m here. I’ve said consistently, after more than five very difficult decades, the relationship between our governments will not be transformed overnight. We continue, as President Castro indicated, to have some very serious differences, including on democracy and human rights. And President Castro and I have had very frank and candid conversations on these subjects. 我们与古巴日益深化的交往遵循一个总体目标——增进两国的共同利益,包括改善两国人民的生活,古巴人民和美国人民皆是如此。这就是我到访的原因。我一直表示,在经历了五个极其艰难的十年之后,我们两国政府的关系不会在一夜之间发生转变。正如卡斯特罗总统所指出的,我们仍然存在一些严重分歧,包括在民主和人权问题上。卡斯特罗总统和我就这些问题进行了非常坦诚和直率的交流。

The United States recognizes progress that Cuba has made as a nation, its enormous achievements in education and in health care. And perhaps most importantly, I affirmed that Cuba’s destiny will not be decided by the United States or any other nation. Cuba is sovereign and, rightly, has great pride. And the future of Cuba will be decided by Cubans, not by anybody else. 美国认可古巴作为一个国家所取得的进步,认可其在教育和医疗保健领域的巨大成就。或许最重要的是,我重申,古巴的命运不会由美国或任何其他国家来决定。古巴是主权国家,理所当然地拥有强烈的自豪感。古巴的未来将由古巴人自己决定,而不是任何其他人。

At the same time, as we do wherever we go around the world, I made it clear that the United States will continue to speak up on behalf of democracy, including the right of the Cuban people to decide their own future. We’ll speak out on behalf of universal human rights, including freedom of speech, and assembly, and religion. Indeed, I look forward to meeting with and hearing from Cuban civil society leaders tomorrow. 与此同时,正如我们在世界各地所做的那样,我明确表示,美国将继续为民主发声,包括古巴人民决定自身未来的权利。我们将为普世人权发声,包括言论自由、集会自由和宗教自由。事实上,我期待着明天与古巴公民社会领导人会面并听取他们的意见。

But as you heard, President Castro has also addressed what he views as shortcomings in the United States around basic needs for people, and poverty and inequality and race relations. And we welcome that constructive dialogue as well -- because we believe that when we share our deepest beliefs and ideas with an attitude of mutual respect, that we can both learn and make the lives of our people better. 但正如你们所听到的,卡斯特罗总统也谈到了他认为美国在人民基本需求、贫困、不平等和种族关系等方面存在的不足。我们也欢迎这种建设性对话——因为我们相信,当我们以相互尊重的态度分享我们最深层的信念和理念时,我们双方都能有所收获,并让我们人民的生活变得更好。

Part of normalizing relations means that we discuss our differences directly. So I’m very pleased that we’ve agreed to hold our next U.S.-Cuba human rights dialogue here in Havana later this year. And both of our countries will welcome visits by independent United Nations experts as we combat human trafficking, which we agree is a profound violation of human rights. 关系正常化的部分含义在于,我们直接讨论我们的分歧。因此,我很高兴我们已同意于今年晚些时候在哈瓦那举行下一轮美古人权对话。我们两国都将欢迎联合国独立专家的访问,共同打击人口贩运——我们一致认为这是对人权的严重侵犯。

Even as we discuss these differences, we share a belief that we can continue to make progress in those areas that we have in common. President Castro, you said in Panama that “we might disagree on something today on which we would agree tomorrow.” And that’s certainly been the case over the past 15 months and the days leading up to this visit. And today, I can report that we continue to move forward on many fronts when it comes to normalizing relations. 即便在讨论这些分歧的同时,我们也有一个共同的信念,那就是我们可以继续在拥有共识的领域取得进展。卡斯特罗总统,您在巴拿马曾说过,"我们今天可能在某件事上意见不一,但明天可能就会达成一致。"过去15个月以及此次访问前的日子里,情况确实如此。今天,我可以报告,在关系正常化方面,我们继续在多条战线上向前推进。

We’re moving ahead with more opportunities for Americans to travel to Cuba and interact with the Cuban people. Over the past year, the number of Americans coming here has surged. Last week, we gave approval for individual Americans to come here for educational travel. U.S. airlines will begin direct commercial flights this year. With last week’s port security announcement, we’ve removed the last major hurdle to resuming cruises and ferry service. All of which will mean even more Americans visiting Cuba in the years ahead and appreciating the incredible history and culture of the Cuban people. 我们正在推进更多美国人赴古巴旅行并与古巴人民交流的机会。过去一年里,来古巴的美国人数大幅增加。上周,我们批准了美国公民以教育目的个人赴古巴旅行。美国航空公司将于今年开通直飞商业航班。随着上周港口安全公告的发布,我们已消除了恢复邮轮和渡轮服务的最后一个主要障碍。所有这些都意味着未来几年将有更多美国人访问古巴,领略古巴人民令人惊叹的历史和文化。

We’re moving ahead with more trade. With only 90 miles between us, we’re natural trading partners. Other steps we took last week -- allowing the U.S. dollar to be used more widely with Cuba, giving Cubans more access to the dollar in international transactions, and allowing Cubans in the U.S. to earn salaries –- these things will do more to create opportunities for trade and joint ventures. We 我们正在推进更多贸易。两国相隔仅90英里,是天然的贸易伙伴。我们上周采取的其他措施——允许美元在与古巴的交往中更广泛地使用,让古巴人在国际交易中更多地使用美元,并允许在美古巴人获得薪资——这些措施将为贸易和合资企业创造更多机会。

We welcome Cuba’s important announcement that it plans to end the 10 percent penalty on dollar conversions here, which will open the door to more travel and more commerce. And these steps show that we’re opening up to one another. 我们欢迎古巴的重要宣布,即计划取消美元兑换10%的附加税,这将为更多旅行和商业打开大门。这些举措表明,我们正在相互开放。

With this visit, we’ve agreed to deepen our cooperation on agriculture to support our farmers and our ranchers. This afternoon, I’ll highlight some of the new commercial deals being announced by major U.S. companies. And just as I continue to call on Congress to lift the trade embargo, I discussed with President Castro the steps we urge Cuba to take to show that it’s ready to do more business, which includes allowing more joint ventures and allowing foreign companies to hire Cubans directly. 通过这次访问,我们已同意深化农业合作,支持两国的农民和牧场主。今天下午,我将重点介绍美国主要企业宣布的一些新商业交易。正如我继续呼吁国会解除贸易禁运一样,我也与卡斯特罗总统讨论了我们敦促古巴采取的措施,以表明古巴已准备好开展更多商业合作,包括允许更多合资企业以及允许外国公司直接雇用古巴员工。

We’re moving ahead with our efforts to help connect more Cubans to the Internet and the global economy. Under President Castro, Cuba has set a goal of bringing Cubans online. And we want to help. At this afternoon’s entrepreneurship event, I’ll discuss additional steps we’re taking to help more Cubans learn, innovate, and do business online -- because in the 21st century, countries cannot be successful unless their citizens have access to the Internet. 我们正在努力帮助更多古巴人接入互联网和全球经济。在卡斯特罗总统的领导下,古巴已设定了让古巴人上网的目标。我们愿意提供帮助。在今天下午的创业活动上,我将讨论我们正在采取的更多措施,帮助更多古巴人在线学习、创新和开展业务——因为在21世纪,除非公民能够接入互联网,否则国家无法取得成功。

We’re moving ahead with more educational exchanges. Thanks to the generous support of the Cuban-American community, I can announce that my 100, Strong in the Americas initiative will offer new opportunities for university students to study abroad -- more Americans at Cuban schools and more Cubans at U.S. schools. And going forward, educational grants and scholarships will be available to Cuban students. And in partnership with the Cuban government, we’ll offer more English language training for Cuban teachers, both in Cuba and online. 我们正在推进更多教育交流。得益于古巴裔美国社区的慷慨支持,我可以宣布,我的"美洲百名强"倡议将为大学生提供新的留学机会——更多美国学生赴古巴学校学习,更多古巴学生赴美国学校学习。

Even as Cubans prepare for the arrival of the Rolling Stones, we’re moving ahead with more events and exchanges that bring Cubans and Americans together as well. We all look forward to tomorrow’s matchup between the Tampa Bay Rays and the Cuban National Team. 今后,古巴学生将有资格获得教育助学金和奖学金。我们还将与古巴政府合作,为古巴教师提供更多英语语言培训,包括在古巴境内和在线方式。

More broadly, we’re moving ahead with partnerships in health, science, and the environment. Just as Cubans and American medical teams have worked together in Haiti against cholera, and in West Africa against Ebola -- and I want to give a special commendation to Cuban doctors who volunteered and took on some very tough assignments to save lives in West Africa in partnership with us and other nations. We very much appreciate the work that they did. 就在古巴人为滚石乐队的到来做准备之际,我们也在推进更多让古巴人和美国人相聚的活动与交流。我们都期待着明天坦帕湾光芒队对阵古巴国家队的比赛。

Our medical professionals will now collaborate in new areas, preventing the spread of viruses like Zika and leading new research into cancer vaccines. Our governments will also work to protect the beautiful waters of this region that we share. 更广泛地说,我们正在推进卫生、科学和环境领域的伙伴关系。正如古巴和美国医疗队曾在海地共同抗击霍乱、在西非共同抗击埃博拉一样——我要特别表彰古巴医生,他们志愿奔赴西非,与我们及其他国家合作,承担起拯救生命的艰巨任务。我们非常感谢他们所做的工作。我们的医疗专业人员现在将在新的领域开展合作,预防寨卡等病毒的传播,并领导癌症疫苗的新研究。两国政府还将共同努力,保护我们共享的这片美丽海域。

And as two countries threatened by climate change, I believe we can work together to protect communities and our low-lying coasts. And we're inviting Cuba to join us and our Caribbean and Central American partners at this spring’s regional energy summit in Washington. 作为两个面临气候变化威胁的国家,我相信我们可以携手合作,保护社区和低洼沿海地区。我们邀请古巴与我们以及我们的加勒比和中美洲伙伴一道,参加今年春天在华盛顿举行的地区能源峰会。

And finally, we're moving ahead with our closer cooperation on regional security. We're working to deepen our law enforcement coordination, especially against narco-traffickers that threaten both of our peoples. I want to thank President Castro and the Cuban government for hosting peace talks between the Colombian government and the FARC. And we remain optimistic that Colombians can achieve a lasting and just peace. 最后,我们正在推进更紧密的地区安全合作。我们正致力于深化执法协调,特别是打击威胁两国人民的贩毒分子。我要感谢卡斯特罗总统和古巴政府主办哥伦比亚政府与哥伦比亚革命武装力量之间的和谈。

And although we did not have an extensive discussion of Venezuela, we did touch on the subject. And I believe that the whole region has an interest in a country that is addressing its economic challenges, is responsive to the aspirations of its people, and is a source of stability in the region. That is, I believe, an interest that we should all share. 我们仍然对哥伦比亚人民能够实现持久公正的和平持乐观态度。尽管我们没有就委内瑞拉问题进行广泛讨论,但我们确实触及了这一议题。我认为,一个能够应对经济挑战、回应人民愿望、成为地区稳定之源的国家,符合整个地区的利益。我相信,这是我们应当共同追求的目标。

So again, President Castro, I want to thank you for welcoming me. I think it’s fair to say that the United States and Cuba are now engaged across more areas than any time during my lifetime. With every passing day, more Americans are coming to Cuba, more U.S. businesses and schools and faith groups are working to forge new partnerships with the Cuban people. More Cubans are benefitting from the opportunities that this travel and trade bring. 因此,卡斯特罗总统,我再次感谢您的欢迎。我认为可以说,美古两国现在的交往领域之广,是我有生以来任何时候都未曾有过的。每一天,都有更多美国人来到古巴,更多美国企业、学校和宗教团体正努力与古巴人民建立新的伙伴关系。越来越多的古巴人正从这种旅行和贸易带来的机遇中受益。

As you indicated, the road ahead will not be easy. Fortunately, we don’t have to swim with sharks in order to achieve the goals that you and I have set forth. As you say here in Cuba, “echar para adelante.” Despite the difficulties, we will continue to move forward. We're focused on the future. 正如您所指出的,前方的道路不会平坦。幸运的是,我们不必冒着鲨鱼的危险游泳,才能实现您我共同提出的目标。正如你们古巴人常说的:"勇往直前"。尽管困难重重,我们将继续向前迈进。我们着眼于未来。

And I’m absolutely confident that if we stay on this course, we can deliver a better and brighter future for both the Cuban people and the American people. 我完全相信,只要我们坚持这条道路,我们就能为古巴人民和美国人民创造更美好、更光明的未来。

Muchas gracias. Thank you very much. 非常感谢。非常感谢大家。

First question, Jim Acosta. 第一个问题,吉姆·阿科斯塔。

Question: [As interpreted.] Thank you, President Castro, for your hospitality in Havana. And thank you, Mr. President. 记者:(经译员翻译)感谢卡斯特罗总统在哈瓦那的盛情款待。也感谢您,总统先生。

[In English.] In your meeting with President Castro, what words did you use to urge him to pursue democratic reforms and expand human rights here in Cuba? Will you invite President Castro to the White House? We know he’s been to New York. And why did you not meet with Fidel Castro? (用英语提问)在您与卡斯特罗总统的会晤中,您用了哪些话敦促他推动民主改革并扩大古巴的人权?您会邀请卡斯特罗总统访问白宫吗?我们知道他去过纽约。还有,您为什么没有会见菲德尔·卡斯特罗?

And, President Castro, my father is Cuban. He left for the United States when he was young. Do you see a new and democratic direction for your country? And why you have Cuban political prisoners? And why don’t you release them? And one more question, who do you prefer -- Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? Thank you. 卡斯特罗总统,我父亲是古巴人。他年轻时就去了美国。您认为贵国正在走向一个新的民主方向吗?你们为什么关押政治犯?为什么不释放他们?还有一个问题,您更支持谁——希拉里·克林顿还是唐纳德·特朗普?谢谢。

President Obama: Well, as I think we both indicated, we had a very fruitful conversation around issues of democracy and human rights. Our starting point is that we have two different systems -- two different systems of government, two different economies. And we have decades of profound differences, both bilaterally and internationally. 奥巴马总统:我想我们两人都已经表示,我们就民主和人权问题进行了富有成果的对话。我们的出发点是,我们有两种不同的制度——两种不同的政府体制,两种不同的经济模式。几十年来,我们在双边和国际层面都存在深刻分歧。

What I have said to President Castro is that we are moving forward and not looking backwards; that we don’t view Cuba as a threat to the United States. I hope that my visit here indicates the degree to which we're setting a new chapter in Cuban-American relations. 我对卡斯特罗总统说过的是,我们正在向前迈进,而不是向后看;我们不把古巴视为对美国的威胁。我希望我对这里的访问能够表明,我们正在翻开古美关系的新篇章。

But as is true with countries around the world where we have normalized relations, we will continue to stand up for basic principles that we believe in. America believes in democracy. We believe that freedom of speech and freedom of assembly and freedom of religion are not just American values, but are universal values. 但正如我们与世界上所有已实现关系正常化的国家一样,我们将继续捍卫我们所信仰的基本原则。美国信仰民主。我们认为,言论自由、集会自由和宗教自由不仅仅是美国的价值观,而是普世价值观。

They may not express themselves exactly in the same way in every country, they may not be enshrined in the founding documents or constitutions of every country the same way, or protected legally in exactly the same ways, but the impulse -- the human impulse towards freedom, the freedom that José Martí talked about, we think is a universal longing. 它们在每个国家的表现形式可能不尽相同,它们在每个国家的建国文件或宪法中的体现方式可能不同,法律保护的方式也可能不同,但这种冲动——人类对自由的渴望,何塞·马蒂所谈论的自由,我们认为是一种普世的向往。

President Castro I think has pointed out that, in his view, making sure that everybody is getting a decent education or health care, has basic security in old age -- that those things are human rights, as well. I personally would not disagree with him. 卡斯特罗总统指出,在他看来,确保每个人都能获得良好的教育或医疗保健,享有基本的养老保障——这些也都是人权。我个人并不反对他的看法。

But it doesn’t detract from some of these other concerns. And the goal of the human rights dialogue is not for the United States to dictate to Cuba how they should govern themselves, but to make sure that we are having a frank and candid conversation around this issue and hopefully that we can learn from each other. 但这并不能削弱其他一些关切。人权对话的目的不是让美国对古巴指手画脚,告诉他们应该如何治理自己,而是确保我们就这一问题进行坦诚直率的交流,并希望我们能够相互学习。

It does not mean that it has to be the only issue we talk about. Economics, health, scientific exchanges, international cooperation on issues of regional as well as global import are also important. But this is something that we are going to stay on. And I actually welcome President Castro commenting on some of the areas where he feels that we're falling short because I think we should not be immune or afraid of criticism or discussion, as well. 这并不意味着它必须是我们谈论的唯一议题。经济、卫生、科学交流、地区及全球重要事务上的国际合作也同样重要。但这是我们将持续关注的问题。事实上,我欢迎卡斯特罗总统对他认为我们存在不足的一些领域提出意见,因为我认为我们也不应回避或害怕批评与讨论。

Here’s the one thing I do know is that when I talk to Cuban Americans -- and, Jim, you’re second generation, and so I think I speak not for you directly, but for many that I talk to around the United States -- I think there is enormous hope that there can be reconciliation. And the bridge that President Castro discussed can be built between the Cuban American community and Cubans here. There are family ties and cultural ties that are so strong. And I think everyone would benefit from those ties being reestablished. 有一件事我是确定的——当我与古巴裔美国人交谈时——吉姆,你是第二代移民,所以我想我不是在直接代表你说话,而是代表我在美国各地接触过的许多人——我认为人们对实现和解抱有巨大的期望。卡斯特罗总统所谈到的桥梁,可以在古巴裔美国人社区与这里的古巴人民之间搭建起来。家庭纽带和文化联系是如此深厚。我认为,重建这些联系将使每个人都受益。

One of the impediments to strengthening those ties is these disagreements around human rights and democracy. And to the extent that we can have a good conversation about that and to actually make progress, that, I think, will allow us to see the full flowering of a relationship that is possible. In the absence of that, I think it will continue to be a very powerful irritant. 加强这些联系的障碍之一,就是围绕人权与民主的这些分歧。如果我们能够就此进行良好对话并切实取得进展,我认为,我们将见证双边关系的全面繁荣。反之,我认为这将继续是一个极具刺激性的问题。

And this is not unique to U.S.-Cuban relations. It’s one that, as you know, I have conversations with when we go to bilateral meetings with some of our very close allies, as well as countries that we don’t have as close of a relationship to. But I think it is something that matters. And I’ve met with people who have been subject to arbitrary detention, and that’s something that I generally have to speak out on because I hear from them directly and I know what it means for them. 这并非美古关系所独有。你们知道,即便是在与我们一些非常亲密的盟友以及关系不那么密切的国家举行双边会晤时,我也会讨论这个问题。但我认为这件事很重要。我见过那些遭到任意拘留的人,这是我通常必须发声的问题,因为我直接听到他们的诉说,我知道这对他们意味着什么。

Excuse me. 对不起。

President Raul Castro: [As interpreted.] I was asking if his question was directed to me or to President Obama. You talked about political prisoners. 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:(经译员翻译)我刚才在问,他的问题是问我的还是问奥巴马总统的。你谈到了政治犯。

President Obama: I think the second one was addressed to you. Trump and Hillary. 奥巴马总统:我想第二个问题是问您的。特朗普和希拉里的问题。

President Raul Castro: [As interpreted.] For him or for me? 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:(经译员翻译)问他还是问我?

Question: [As interpreted.] For you, Mr. President. 记者:(经译员翻译)问您,总统先生。

President Raul Castro: What did you say about the political prisoners? Can you repeat that question about political prisoners? Did you ask if we had political prisoners? 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:你刚才说政治犯什么?你能重复一下关于政治犯的问题吗?你是问我们有没有政治犯吗?

Question: I wanted to know if you have Cuban political prisoners and why you don’t release them. 记者:我想知道你们是否关押政治犯,为什么不释放他们。

President Raul Castro: Give me the list of political prisoners and I will release them immediately. Just mention a list. What political prisoners? Give me a name or names. After this meeting is over, you can give me a list of political prisoners. And if we have those political prisoners, they will be released before tonight ends. 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:把政治犯名单给我,我会立即释放他们。只要说出名单就行。什么政治犯?给我一个或几个名字。这次会议结束后,你可以给我一份政治犯名单。如果我们真的关押了这些政治犯,他们将在今晚之前获释。

Question: And Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, President Castro? 记者:那么卡斯特罗总统,您支持唐纳德·特朗普还是希拉里·克林顿?

President Raul Castro: [As interpreted.] Well, I cannot vote in the United States. 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:(经译员翻译)这个嘛,我不能在美国投票。

Question: [As interpreted.] My question is for President Raul Castro. I’m from Cuban TV. President Raul Castro, you have repeatedly stated, and today once again, that we must learn to coexist in a civilized manner with our differences. Could you broaden this concept? This is a historical moment that we are living. 记者:(经译员翻译)我的问题是问劳尔·卡斯特罗总统的。我来自古巴电视台。劳尔·卡斯特罗总统,您多次表示,今天也再次表示,我们必须学会以文明的方式与分歧共处。您能否进一步阐述这一理念?我们正处在一个历史性时刻。

And then I have a brief question for President Obama. President Obama, could U.S. government give more space to eliminate U.S. blockade during your mandate so that another generation of Cubans would not have to suffer this economic and commercial blockade against Cuba? 然后我有一个简短的问题问奥巴马总统。奥巴马总统,美国政府能否在您的任期内为解除美国封锁提供更多空间,使新一代古巴人不必再遭受这种针对古巴的经济和商业封锁之苦?

President Raul Castro: [As interpreted.] The first question was for me. Please repeat your question, because I couldn’t hear well. 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:(经译员翻译)第一个问题是问我的。请重复一下您的问题,我没听清。

Question: [As interpreted.] You have said repeatedly that we must learn to coexist in a civilized manner with our differences. 记者:(经译员翻译)您多次表示,我们必须学会以文明的方式与分歧共处。

President Raul Castro: Well, President Obama himself has referred to that. We have given the first steps –- many for being the first steps. And we must continue giving these steps. And I’m sure that we will be able to coexist peacefully in an environment of mutual cooperation as we are doing already in many fields for the benefit of both countries and with the benefit of other countries as we have already done -- in Haiti, with the cholera and in Africa with the Ebola. 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:嗯,奥巴马总统本人也提到了这一点。我们已经迈出了第一步——作为第一步,已经迈出了很多步。我们必须继续迈出这些步伐。我相信,我们能够在互利合作的环境中和平共处,正如我们已经在许多领域所做的那样,为了两国的利益,也为了其他国家的利益,正如我们已经做的那样——在海地,共同应对霍乱;在非洲,共同应对埃博拉。

President Raul Castro: That is the future of mankind if we want to save the humans species. The level of water grows and the island may become smaller. 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:如果我们想要拯救人类,这就是人类的未来。海平面在上升,岛屿可能会变得更小。

You are asking too many questions to me. I think questions should be directed to President Obama. 你们问我的问题太多了。我认为问题应该提给奥巴马总统。

President Obama: So we have administratively already made a number of modifications on the embargo. I referred to a number of them in my opening statement. And we’ve actually been fairly aggressive in exercising as much flexibility as we can, given that the law putting the embargo in place has not been repealed by Congress. There may be some technical aspects of the embargo that we can still make adjustments on, depending on problems as they arise. 奥巴马总统:我们已经通过行政方式对禁运作出了多项调整。我在开场发言中提到了其中一些。实际上,鉴于实施禁运的法律尚未被国会废除,我们在行使灵活性方面已经相当积极主动。禁运可能还有一些技术层面的问题,我们仍可以根据出现的问题进行调整。

So, for example, the issue around the dollar and the need to make modifications in terms of how the embargo was implemented to encourage, rather than discourage reforms that the Cuban government itself is willing to engage in and to facilitate greater trade and commerce, that is something that grew out of the dialogue between our governments, and we have made appropriate adjustments to it. It will take some time for commercial banks to understand the new rules, but we actually think that this is an area where we can improve current circumstances. 例如,美元相关问题以及需要调整禁运的实施方式,以鼓励而非阻碍古巴政府本身愿意参与的改革,并促进更大的贸易和商业往来,这是两国政府对话的成果,我们已作出相应调整。商业银行需要一些时间来理解新规则,但我们确实认为这是一个可以改善现状的领域。

But I’ll be honest with you that the list of things that we can do administratively is growing shorter, and the bulk of changes that have to be made with respect to the embargo are now going to rely on Congress making changes. 但老实说,我们可以通过行政手段完成的事项正在减少,而禁运方面的大部分改变现在将有赖于国会作出调整。

I’ve been very clear about the interests in getting that done before I leave. Frankly, Congress is not as productive as I would like during a Presidential election year. But the fact that we have such a large congressional delegation with Democrats and Republicans with us is an indication that there is growing interest inside of Congress for lifting the embargo. 我一直非常明确地表示,希望在我卸任前完成这项工作。坦率地说,在总统大选年,国会的工作效率不如我期望的那样高。但如此庞大的国会代表团——民主党和共和党人都有——与我们同行,这表明国会内部对解除禁运的兴趣正在增长。

As I just indicated in my earlier answer, how quickly that happens will, in part, depend on whether we can bridge some of our differences around human rights issues. And that's why the dialogue I think is so important. It sends a signal that at least there’s engagement between the two countries on these matters. 正如我在之前的回答中所指出的,这一进程的速度部分取决于我们能否弥合在人权问题上的一些分歧。这就是为什么我认为对话如此重要。它发出了一个信号,即两国至少在这些问题上保持接触。

Now, I promised the President I would take one more question. Andrea Mitchell of NBC. 现在,我向总统保证,我再回答一个问题。全国广播公司的安德里亚·米切尔。

Question: Thank you, Mr. President. Do you feel, after your meeting today, that you have made enough progress to even accelerate the pace and that the Cuban government is able to move quickly enough so that the changes that you have made through these technical adjustments to the embargo will be permanent, cannot be reversed by the next President? And what advice have you given to President Castro about the ability of having the blockade, the embargo lifted? Because he has said again today this is a continuous issue which is blocking progress, from their standpoint. 记者:谢谢您,总统先生。您觉得,经过今天的会晤,您是否已经取得了足够的进展,足以加快步伐?古巴政府是否能够足够迅速地行动,使您通过这些技术性调整对禁运作的改变成为永久性的、不会被下一任总统推翻的改变?

And you said the conversations about human rights were frank and candid and that you want to move forward. But even as you were arriving, there were dramatic arrests of peaceful protests -- the Ladies in White. What signal does that send? Can you have civilized coexistence at the same time you have such profound disagreements about the very definitions of what human rights means, as President Castro expressed today? 您向卡斯特罗总统提供了哪些建议,关于如何让封锁、禁运得以解除?因为他今天再次表示,从他们的角度来看,这是一个持续阻碍进步的问题。

And for President Castro, for many of us, it's remarkable to hear you speak about all these subjects. Can you tell us what you see in the future? President Obama has nine months remaining. You have said you would be stepping down in 2018. What is the future of our two countries, given the different definitions and the different interpretations of profound issues like democracy and human rights? 您说关于人权的对话是坦诚直率的,您希望向前推进。但就在您抵达之际,和平抗议者——"白衣女士"——遭到了大规模逮捕。这传递了什么信号?正如卡斯特罗总统今天所表达的,双方对人权的定义存在如此深刻的分歧,在这种情况下,你们还能实现文明共处吗?

Thank you. 还有一个问题问卡斯特罗总统:对我们许多人来说,听到您谈论所有这些话题是非同寻常的。您能否告诉我们您对未来的展望?奥巴马总统还有九个月任期。您曾表示您将于2018年卸任。鉴于在民主和人权等深层问题上存在不同的定义和解读,我们两国的未来是什么?谢谢。

President Obama: Well, Andrea, the embargo is going to end. When, I can't be entirely sure, but I believe it will end. And the path that we're on will continue beyond my Administration. The reason is logic. The reason is that what we did for 50 years did not serve our interests or the interests of the Cuban people. And as I said when we made the announcement about normalization of relations, if you keep on doing something over and over again for 50 years and it doesn’t work, it might make sense to try something new. 奥巴马总统:嗯,安德里亚,禁运终将结束。什么时候结束,我不能完全确定,但我相信它会结束。我们正在走的这条路将在我卸任后继续下去。原因在于逻辑。原因在于,我们50年来的做法既不符合我们的利益,也不符合古巴人民的利益。正如我们在宣布关系正常化时所说的,如果你50年来一遍又一遍地做同一件事却没有效果,那么尝试一些新的做法或许是有意义的。

And that's what we've done. And the fact that there has been strong support not just inside of Congress, not just among the American people, but also among the Cuban people indicates that this is a process that should and will continue. 这就是我们所做的。不仅国会内部、美国人民中间,而且古巴人民当中都存在强烈支持,这一事实表明,这一进程应该也必将继续下去。

Having said that, lifting the embargo requires the votes of a majority in Congress, and maybe even more than a majority in the Senate. And as I indicated to President Castro, two things I think will help accelerate the pace of bringing the embargo to an end. The first is to the degree that we can take advantage of the existing changes that we’ve already made and we see progress, that will help to validate this change in policy. 话虽如此,解除禁运需要国会多数票,甚至可能需要参议院超过半数的票数。正如我对卡斯特罗总统所说的,我认为有两件事将有助于加快结束禁运的步伐。第一,在多大程度上我们能够利用已经作出的改变并看到进展,这将有助于验证这一政策转变的正确性。

So, for example, we have said that it is no longer a restriction on U.S. companies to invest in helping to build Internet and broadband infrastructure inside of Cuba. It is not against U.S. law, as it's been interpreted by the Administration. 因此,举例来说,我们已经表示,美国公司投资帮助古巴建设互联网和宽带基础设施不再受限。根据本届政府的解释,这并不违反美国法律。

If we start seeing those kinds of commercial deals taking place and Cubans are benefitting from greater access to the Internet -- and when I go to the entrepreneurship meeting later this afternoon, I understand that we're going to meet some young Cubans who are already getting trained and are facile in using the Internet, they’re interested in startups -- that builds a constituency for ending the embargo. If we 如果我们开始看到这类商业交易落地,古巴人民从更广泛的互联网接入中受益——今天下午我去参加创业会议时,我知道我们将会见一些已经接受培训、能够熟练使用互联网并对创业感兴趣的古巴年轻人——这将为结束禁运建立支持群体。

If we build on the work that we're doing in agriculture, and you start seeing more U.S. farmers interacting with Cuban farmers, and there’s more exports and imports -- that builds a constituency and the possibility of ending the embargo increases. So hopefully taking advantage of what we've already done will help. 如果我们在农业领域开展的工作取得进展,开始看到更多美国农民与古巴农民互动,进出口贸易增加——这将建立支持群体,结束禁运的可能性就会增加。因此,希望利用我们已经做的事情将有所帮助。

And the second area, which we've already discussed extensively, is the issue of human rights. People are still concerned about that inside of Cuba. 第二个领域,我们已经广泛讨论过,就是人权问题。古巴国内对此仍然感到关切。

Now, keep in mind I’ve got fierce disagreements with the Chinese around human rights. I’ll be going to Vietnam later this year -- I have deep disagreements with them as well. When we first visited Burma, people questioned whether we should be traveling there because of longstanding human rights violations in our view. 请记住,我与中国在人权问题上存在严重分歧。今年晚些时候我将访问越南——我与他们也有深刻分歧。当我们首次访问缅甸时,人们质疑我们是否应该前往那里,因为在我们看来那里存在长期的人权侵犯问题。

And the approach that I’ve taken has been that if I engage frankly, clearly, stating what our beliefs are but also being clear that we can't force change on any particular country -- ultimately it has to come from within -- then that is going to be a more useful strategy than the same kinds of rigid disengagement that for 50 years did nothing. 我所采取的做法是,如果我坦诚、明确地接触,阐明我们的信念,但同时也明确表示我们不能将改变强加给任何特定国家——最终改变必须来自内部——那么这将是一种更有效的策略,而不是那种50年来毫无成效的僵化隔绝。

I guess ultimately what this comes down to, Andrea, is I have faith in people. I think that if you meet Cubans here and Cubans meet Americans, and they’re meeting and talking and interacting and doing business together, and going to school together and learning from each other, then they’ll recognize people are people. And in that context, I believe that change will occur. 我想归根结底,安德里亚,这在于我对人民的信心。我认为,如果这里的古巴人与美国人相遇,他们相互交往、交谈、互动、一起做生意、一起上学、相互学习,那么他们就会认识到,人都是一样的。在这种背景下,我相信改变将会发生。

Okay, now I’m done, but Señor Presidente, I think Andrea had a question for you just about your vision. It's up to you. He did say he was only going to take one question and I was going to take two. But I leave it up to you if you want to address that question. 好了,现在我说完了,但主席先生,我想安德里亚有一个关于您愿景的问题要问您。由您决定。他说过他只回答一个问题,而我要回答两个。但如果您想回答那个问题,悉听尊便。

Question: Por favor. 记者:请您回答一下。

President Obama: Andrea, she’s one of our most esteemed journalists in America, and I’m sure she’d appreciate just a short, brief answer. 奥巴马总统:安德里亚是我们美国最受尊敬的记者之一,我相信她会很欣赏一个简短的回答。

President Raul Castro: Andrea -- 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:安德里亚——

Question: Mr. President. 记者:总统先生。

President Raul Castro: [As interpreted.] There is a program here to be fulfilled. I know that if I stay here, you will ask 500 questions. I said that I was going to answer one. Well, I answered one and a half. President Obama has already helped me out with the answer here, Andrea. 劳尔·卡斯特罗总统:(经译员翻译)这里有既定的日程安排。我知道如果我留下来,你们会提出500个问题。我说过我只回答一个。好吧,我已经回答了一个半。奥巴马总统已经帮我回答了这个问题,安德里亚。

I was reading something about human rights, but I’m going to make the question to you now. There are 61 international instruments recognized. How many countries in the world comply with all the human rights and civil rights that have been included in these 61 instruments? What country complies with them all? Do you know how many? I do. None. 我刚才在读一些关于人权的内容,但现在我要向你们提一个问题。国际上公认的文书有61项。世界上有多少国家遵守了这61项文书中所载的所有人权和公民权利?有哪个国家全部遵守了?你们知道有多少吗?我知道。一个都没有。

None, whatsoever. Some countries comply some rights; others comply others. And we are among these countries. Out of these 61 instruments, Cuba has complied with 47 of these human rights instruments. There are countries that may comply with more, there’s those that comply with less. 一个都没有。有些国家遵守某些权利,其他国家遵守另一些权利。我们属于这些国家之列。在这61项文书中,古巴已经遵守了47项人权文书。有些国家可能遵守得更多,有些则更少。

I think the human rights issue should not be politicized. That is not correct. That is a purpose that will stay the same way. For example, for Cuba, the desire for all the rights. Do you think there’s any more sacred right than the right to health, so that billions of children don’t die just for the lack of a vaccine or a drug or a medicament? Do you agree with the right to free education for all those born anywhere in the world or in any country? I think many countries don't think this is a human right. 我认为人权问题不应被政治化。这是不正确的。这一目的将始终如一。例如,对古巴来说,我们渴望实现所有权利。你们认为,还有什么权利比健康权更神圣,让数十亿儿童不至于因为缺乏疫苗、药物或医疗手段而死去?

In Cuba, all children are born in a hospital and they are registered that same day, because when mothers are in advance pregnancy they go to hospitals days before, many days before delivery, so that all children are born in hospitals. It doesn’t matter if they live in faraway places or in mountains or hills. We have many other rights -- a right to health, the right to education. 你们同意世界上任何国家或任何地方出生的所有人都享有免费教育的权利吗?我认为许多国家不认为这是一项人权。在古巴,所有儿童都在医院出生,并在当天登记在册,因为母亲们在孕晚期就会提前几天,甚至提前很多天住进医院,这样所有儿童都能在医院出生。无论他们住在偏远地区,还是住在山里或丘陵地带,都是如此。我们还有许多其他权利——健康权、受教育权。

And this is my last example that I will mention. Do you think that for equal work, men get better paid than women just for the fact of being women? Well, in Cuba, women get the same pay for same work. I can give you many, many examples. I don't think we can use the argument of human rights for political confrontation. That is not fair. It's not correct. 这是我要提到的最后一个例子。你们认为,做同样的工作,男性仅仅因为是男性就比女性报酬更高,这合理吗?在古巴,女性同工同酬。我可以给你们举很多很多例子。我认为我们不能用人权作为政治对抗的借口。这不公平。这是不正确的。

I’m not saying that it's not honest. It's part of confrontations, of course. But let us work so that we can all comply with all human rights. It's like talking about pride -- I’m going to end here because it's a commitment that we should end in time. It’s not correct to ask me about political prisoners in general. Please give me the name of a political prisoner. 我不是说这不是真诚的。当然,这是对抗的一部分。但让我们共同努力,使我们所有人都能享有全部人权。这就像谈论自豪感一样——我就讲到这里,因为我们承诺要按时结束。泛泛地问我政治犯的问题是不对的。请给我一个政治犯的名字。

And I think this is enough. We have concluded. Thank you for your participation. 我想这就够了。我们到此结束。感谢各位的参与。

署名Barack Obama(巴拉克·奥巴马)  2016-03-21  发表于 Palace of the Revolution, Havana, Cuba