Well, this is going to be the first opportunity that I have to get an extensive debriefing from Secretary Carter, who took a trip last week to Afghanistan and other parts of the region. He'll be giving me some impressions about how we're planning our drawdown and transition in Afghanistan, and talk about some other regional issues. 这将是我第一次有机会听取卡特部长的详细汇报，他上周访问了阿富汗和该地区其他地方。他将向我介绍我们在阿富汗的撤军和过渡计划的进展情况，并讨论一些其他地区问题。
One issue that we will be discussing is Iran. And obviously that's been a topic of great interest today, so let me just make a couple comments on that. I did not have a chance to watch Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech -- I was on a video conference with our European partners with respect to Ukraine. I did have a chance to take a look at the transcript and as far as I can tell, there was nothing new. 我们将要讨论的一个问题是伊朗。显然，这是今天大家非常感兴趣的话题，所以让我就此谈几点看法。我没有机会观看内塔尼亚胡总理的演讲——我当时正在与我们的欧洲伙伴就乌克兰问题举行视频会议。我确实有机会看了一下讲稿，据我看来，里面没有什么新内容。
The Prime Minister appropriately pointed out that the bond between the United States of America is unbreakable, and on that point I thoroughly agree. He also pointed out that Iran has been a dangerous regime and continues to engage in activities that are contrary to the interests of the United States, to Israel, and to the region. And on that, we agree. He also pointed out the fact that Iran has repeatedly threatened Israel and engaged in the most venomous of anti-Semitic statements. And no one can dispute that. 总理恰当地指出，美利坚合众国之间的纽带是牢不可破的，在这一点上我完全同意。他还指出，伊朗一直是一个危险的政权，并继续从事违背美国、以色列和该地区利益的活动。在这一点上，我们意见一致。他还指出，伊朗一再威胁以色列，并发表最恶毒的反犹太言论。这一点无人能否认。
But on the core issue, which is how do we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, which would make it far more dangerous and would give it scope for even greater action in the region, the Prime Minister didn't offer any viable alternatives. So let's be clear about what exactly the central concern should be, both for the United States and for Israel. 但在核心问题上，也就是我们如何防止伊朗获得核武器——这将使其变得更加危险，并使其在该地区有更大的行动空间——总理没有提出任何可行的替代方案。所以让我们明确一点，对于美国和以色列来说，核心关切到底应该是什么。
I've said since before I became President that one of my primary goals in foreign policy would be preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons. And with the help of Congress and our international partners, we constructed an extraordinarily effective sanctions regime that pressured Iran to come to the table to negotiate in a serious fashion. 我在就任总统之前就说过，我外交政策的主要目标之一就是防止伊朗获得核武器。在国会和我们国际伙伴的帮助下，我们建立了一套极其有效的制裁机制，迫使伊朗回到谈判桌前认真谈判。
They have now been negotiating over the last year, and during that period, Iran has, in fact, frozen its program, rolled back some of its most dangerous highly enriched uranium, and subjected itself to the kinds of verifications and inspections that we had not previously seen. 过去一年里，他们一直在谈判，在此期间，伊朗实际上冻结了其核计划，缩减了部分最危险的高浓缩铀库存，并接受了我们以前从未见过的核查和视察。
Keep in mind that when we shaped that interim deal, Prime Minister Netanyahu made almost the precise same speech about how dangerous that deal was going to be. And yet, over a year later, even Israeli intelligence officers and, in some cases, members of the Israeli government, have to acknowledge that, in fact, it has kept Iran from further pursuing its nuclear program. 请记住，当我们制定那项临时协议时，内塔尼亚胡总理几乎说了完全一样的话，说那项协议会有多么危险。然而，一年多过去了，就连以色列情报官员，在某些情况下甚至以色列政府成员，都不得不承认，事实上，那项协议确实阻止了伊朗进一步推进其核计划。
Now, the deal that we are trying to negotiate that is not yet completed would cut off the different pathways for Iran to advance its nuclear capabilities. It would roll back some elements of its program. It would ensure that it did not have what we call a breakout capacity that was shorter than a year's time. And it would subject Iran to the most vigorous inspections and verifications regimes that have ever been put in place. 现在，我们正在努力谈判但尚未完成的这项协议，将切断伊朗推进核能力的各种途径。它将缩减伊朗核计划的某些要素。它将确保伊朗不具备我们所说的不到一年的"突破能力"。它还将使伊朗接受有史以来最严格的检查和核查机制。
And the alternative that the Prime Minister offers is no deal, in which case Iran will immediately begin once again pursuing its nuclear program, accelerate its nuclear program, without us having any insight into what they're doing, and without constraint. And his essential argument is that if we just double down on sanctions, Iran won't want to do that. 而总理提出的替代方案是不达成协议，那样的话，伊朗将立即再次开始推进其核计划，加速其核计划，而我们却无法了解他们在做什么，也无法加以限制。他的基本论点是，如果我们加倍实施制裁，伊朗就不会想那样做。
Well, we have evidence from the past decade that sanctions alone are not sufficient to prevent Iran from pursuing its nuclear ambitions. And if it, in fact, does not have some sense that sanctions will be removed, it will not have an interest in avoiding the path that it's currently on. 嗯，我们有过去十年的证据表明，仅靠制裁不足以阻止伊朗追求其核野心。如果伊朗事实上看不到制裁将会解除的希望，它就不会有动力放弃目前的道路。
So the bottom line is this: We don't yet have a deal. 所以底线是：我们还没有达成协议。
It may be that Iran cannot say yes to a good deal. I have repeatedly said that I would rather have no deal than a bad deal. But if we're successful in negotiating, then, in fact, this will be the best deal possible to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Nothing else comes close. Sanctions won't do it. Even military action would not be as successful as the deal that we have put forward. 伊朗可能无法对一项好协议说"是"。我一再表示，我宁愿没有协议也不要坏协议。但如果我们谈判成功，那么事实上，这将是防止伊朗获得核武器的最佳可能方案。没有其他方案能与之相比。制裁做不到。就连军事行动也不会像我们提出的协议那样成功。
And I think it is very important not to be distracted by the nature of the Iranian regime's ambitions when it comes to territory or terrorism -- all issues which we share a concern with Israel about and are working consistently with Israel on. Because we know that if, in fact, they obtain a nuclear weapon, all those problems would be worse. 我认为，非常重要的一点是，不要因为伊朗政权在领土或恐怖主义方面的野心而分散注意力——这些都是我们与以色列共同关切的问题，也是我们一直在与以色列合作处理的问题。因为我们知道，如果他们事实上获得了核武器，所有这些问题都会变得更糟。
So we're staying focused on the central issue here: How do we prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. The path that we've proposed, if successful, by far is the best way to do that. That's demonstrable. And Prime Minister Netanyahu has not offered any kind of viable alternative that would achieve the same verifiable mechanism to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. 所以我们正专注于这里的核心问题：我们如何防止伊朗获得核武器。我们提出的方案，如果成功的话，是迄今为止最好的办法。这是可以证明的。内塔尼亚胡总理没有提出任何可行的替代方案，能够实现同样可核查的机制来防止伊朗获得核武器。
So I would urge the members of Congress who were there to continue to express their strong support for Israel's security, to continue to express their strong interest in providing the assistance Israel needs to repel attacks. I think it's important for members of Congress, on a bipartisan basis, to be unified in pushing back against terrorism in the region and the destabilizing efforts that Iran may have engaged in with our partners. Those are all things in which this administration and Israel agree. 因此，我要敦促在场的国会议员继续表达他们对以色列安全的坚定支持，继续表达他们对提供以色列抵御袭击所需援助的强烈意愿。我认为，国会议员们在两党基础上团结一致，反击该地区的恐怖主义以及伊朗可能与我们的伙伴一起从事的破坏稳定活动，这一点非常重要。这些都是本届政府和以色列的共识。
But when it comes to this nuclear deal, let's wait until there's actually a deal on the table that Iran has agreed to, at which point everybody can evaluate it; we don't have to speculate. And what I can guarantee is that if it's a deal I've signed off on, I will be able to prove that it is the best way for us to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. 但谈到这项核协议，让我们等到伊朗真正同意一项协议摆在桌面上时再说，到时候每个人都可以评估它；我们不必猜测。我可以保证的是，如果是我签署的协议，我将能够证明它是我们防止伊朗获得核武器的最佳方式。
And for us to pass up on that potential opportunity would be a great mistake. It's not one that I intend to make, and I will take that case to every member of Congress once we actually have a deal. 而对我们来说，错过这个潜在机会将是一个巨大的错误。这不是我打算犯的错误，一旦我们真正达成协议，我将向每一位国会议员说明情况。
I'll take one question from Julie. Go ahead. 我请朱莉提一个问题。请讲。
Question: Now that you've had a chance to read the Prime Minister's remarks at least, do you feel like the speech he gave was appropriate, considering his upcoming elections and the upcoming deadline? And you also talked to other foreign leaders today -- the call on Ukraine. Did Iran come up at all, and are you expecting any signs of support from them vis-à-vis your position versus the Prime Minister? 问：既然您至少已经有机会阅读了总理的讲话，您认为考虑到他即将到来的选举和即将到来的最后期限，他发表的这次演讲是否合适？您今天还与其他外国领导人通了话——关于乌克兰的通话。伊朗问题有没有被提及，您是否期待他们在您与总理的立场上表示任何支持？
President Obama: No. All the folks on the call today share my position that we should see if we can get this deal done. It was not a topic of conversation. 奥巴马总统：没有。今天参加通话的所有人都同意我的立场，即我们应该看看能否达成这项协议。这不是通话的话题。
With respect to the decision of the Speaker to offer up the House Chamber two weeks before Mr. Netanyahu's election to make this case, I think that question should be directed to Mr. Boehner. 关于议长决定在内塔尼亚胡先生选举前两周让他在众议院会议厅发表演讲，我认为这个问题应该指向博纳先生。
As I said, it is very important for us not to politicize the relationship between Israel and the United States. It's very important for all of us Americans to realize that we have a system of government in which foreign policy runs through the executive branch and the President, not through other channels. 正如我所说，非常重要的是，我们不要把以色列和美国之间的关系政治化。对我们所有美国人来说，非常重要的是要认识到，我们的政府体制中，外交政策是通过行政部门和总统来执行的，而不是通过其他渠道。
And I think it's important for us to stay focused on the problem at hand. And the specific problem that is being debated right now is not whether we trust the Iranian regime or not -- we don't trust them. It's not whether Iran engages in destabilizing activities -- everybody agrees with that. 我认为，对我们来说，专注于手头的问题很重要。目前正在辩论的具体问题不是我们是否信任伊朗政权——我们不信任他们。也不是伊朗是否从事破坏稳定的活动——所有人都同意这一点。
The central question is, how can we stop them from getting a nuclear weapon. 核心问题是，我们如何阻止他们获得核武器。
And what we know is that if we're able to get a deal, not only do we cut off all the various pathways for Iran getting a nuclear weapon, but we also know that we'll have a verification mechanism and an inspection mechanism where if they cheat and if they engage in a covert program we are far more likely to see it in time to do something about it. 我们知道的是，如果我们能够达成协议，我们不仅能切断伊朗获得核武器的所有途径，而且我们知道我们将有一个核查机制和检查机制，如果他们作弊，如果他们从事秘密计划，我们更有可能及时发现并采取措施。
What I also know is if we don't have a deal, as Prime Minster Netanyahu suggested -- if, in fact, he's right that they're not trustworthy, they intend to pursue a covert program, and they cheat, we'll be far less aware of it until it is potentially too late. 我还知道的是，如果我们没有协议，就像内塔尼亚胡总理建议的那样——如果事实上他是对的，他们不值得信任，他们打算推行秘密计划，而且他们会作弊——我们会更晚才意识到，直到可能为时已晚。
What I also know is, is that he made the same argument before this current interim deal, and even officials in his own government had to acknowledge that Iran has, in fact, maintained their end of the bargain. 我还知道的是，在当前这项临时协议之前，他也提出了同样的论点，而就连他自己政府的官员也不得不承认，伊朗事实上遵守了协议。
So what I'm focused on right now is solving this problem. I'm not focused on the politics of it, I'm not focused on the theater of it. And my strong suggestion would be that members of Congress, as they evaluate it, stay similarly focused. 所以我现在专注于解决这个问题。我不专注于政治，我不专注于演戏。我的强烈建议是，国会议员们在评估时也保持同样的专注。
All right. Thank you, guys. 好的。谢谢大家。