Good afternoon every -- or good morning, everybody. I am here to answer questions in honor of Ed Henry, as he wraps up his tenure as president of the White House Correspondents Association. 各位下午好——不对，大家早上好。埃德·亨利即将卸任白宫记者协会主席，为了向他致意，今天我来回答大家的问题。
Ed, because of that, you get the first question. Congratulations. 埃德，因此第一个问题由你来提。恭喜。
Question: Thank you, sir, I really appreciate that. And I hope we can go back to business and being mad at each other a little bit. 记者：谢谢总统先生，非常感谢。我也希望我们能回到平常的工作状态，偶尔再互相生点气。
President Obama: I'm not mad at you. 奥巴马总统：我没生你的气。
Question: Okay, good. Thank you, I appreciate that. 记者：那就好，谢谢，我很高兴。
President Obama: You may be mad at me. 奥巴马总统：也许你在生我的气。
Question: I'm not. A couple of questions on national security. On Syria, you said that the red line was not just about chemical weapons being used but being spread, and it was a game-changer -- it seemed cut and dry. And now your administration seems to be suggesting that line is not clear. Do you risk U.S. credibility if you don't take military action? 记者：没有。关于国家安全，我有两个问题。谈到叙利亚，您说过“红线”不仅关乎化学武器的使用，也关乎其扩散，而且一旦越线，局面就会改变；当时听起来很明确。现在您的政府似乎又说这条线并不清楚。如果不采取军事行动，美国的信誉会不会受损？
And then on Benghazi, there are some survivors of that terror attack who say they want to come forward and testify -- some in your State Department -- and they say they’ve been blocked. Will you allow them to testify? 另外，班加西恐怖袭击有些幸存者说想站出来作证，其中有人在国务院任职，却说自己受到阻拦。您会允许他们作证吗？
President Obama: Well, first of all, on Syria, I think it’s important to understand that for several years now what we've been seeing is a slowly unfolding disaster for the Syrian people. And this is not a situation in which we've been simply bystanders to what’s been happening. 奥巴马总统：首先，关于叙利亚，必须明白，我们这几年目睹的是叙利亚人民的灾难逐渐加深。我们并非只是袖手旁观。
My policy from the beginning has been that President Assad had lost credibility, that he attacked his own people, has killed his own people, unleashed a military against innocent civilians, and that the only way to bring stability and peace to Syria is going to be for Assad to step down and to move forward on a political transition. 我的政策从一开始就是：阿萨德总统已经失去公信力。他攻击、杀害自己的人民，动用军队对付无辜平民。叙利亚要实现稳定与和平，唯一的途径是阿萨德下台，推进政治过渡。
In pursuit of that strategy we've organized the international community. We are the largest humanitarian donor. We have worked to strengthen the opposition. We have provided nonlethal assistance to the opposition. We have applied sanctions on Syria. So there are a whole host of steps that we've been taking precisely because, even separate from the chemical weapons issue, what’s happening in Syria is a blemish on the international community generally, and we've got to make sure that we're doing everything we can to protect the Syrian people. 为了实现这一战略，我们动员国际社会。美国是最大的人道主义援助方；我们努力增强反对派的力量，向其提供非致命援助，并对叙利亚实施制裁。我们采取这一系列措施，正是因为即使撇开化学武器问题，叙利亚发生的一切也是国际社会的污点。我们必须尽一切所能保护叙利亚人民。
In that context, what I've also said is that the use of chemical weapons would be a game-changer not simply for the United States but for the international community. And the reason for that is that we have established international law and international norms that say when you use these kinds of weapons you have the potential of killing massive numbers of people in the most inhumane way possible, and the proliferation risks are so significant that we don't want that genie out of the bottle. 在此背景下，我还说过，使用化学武器不仅会改变美国的判断，也会改变整个国际社会的判断。原因是，国际法和国际准则已经确立：这种武器可能以极不人道的方式造成大规模死亡，其扩散风险也极大，我们不愿打开这个潘多拉魔盒。
So when I said that the use of chemical weapons would be a game-changer, that wasn’t unique to -- that wasn’t a position unique to the United States and it shouldn’t have been a surprise. 所以我说化学武器的使用会改变局面，这并非美国独有的立场，也不该让人意外。
And what we now have is evidence that chemical weapons have been used inside of Syria, but we don't know how they were used, when they were used, who used them. We don't have a chain of custody that establishes what exactly happened. And when I am making decisions about America’s national security and the potential for taking additional action in response to chemical weapon use, I've got to make sure I've got the facts. That's what the American people would expect. 目前我们掌握的证据表明，叙利亚境内使用过化学武器，但我们不知道它们如何使用、何时使用、由谁使用。我们还没有能够明确证明事件经过的完整证据链。在决定美国国家安全事务，以及是否针对化学武器的使用采取进一步行动时，我必须掌握事实。美国人民也会这样要求。
And if we end up rushing to judgment without hard, effective evidence, then we can find ourselves in a position where we can't mobilize the international community to support what we do. There may be objections even among some people in the region who are sympathetic with the opposition if we take action. So it’s important for us to do this in a prudent way. 如果没有扎实有效的证据就仓促下结论，我们可能无法动员国际社会支持我们的行动。即使在同情反对派的地区，也可能有人反对。因此，审慎行事十分重要。
And what I've said to my team is we've got to do everything we can to investigate and establish with some certainty what exactly has happened in Syria, what is happening in Syria. We will use all the assets and resources that we have at our disposal. We'll work with the neighboring countries to see whether we can establish a clear baseline of facts. And we've also called on the United Nations to investigate. 我已告诉团队，必须竭尽所能调查，尽可能确定叙利亚究竟发生了什么、正在发生什么。我们会运用所有可用的力量和资源，与邻国合作，争取确立清楚的事实依据，也已呼吁联合国展开调查。
But the important point I want to make here is that we already are deeply engaged in trying to bring about a solution in Syria. It is a difficult problem. But even if chemical weapons were not being used in Syria, we’d still be thinking about tens of thousands of people, innocent civilians -- women, children -- who’ve been killed by a regime that’s more concerned about staying in power than it is about the well-being of its people. And so we are already deeply invested in trying to find a solution here. 但我要强调的是，我们已经深入参与寻找叙利亚问题的解决办法。这很难。即使叙利亚没有使用化学武器，我们仍要面对数以万计无辜平民——包括妇女和儿童——被一个只顾保住权力、不顾人民福祉的政权杀害的事实。所以，我们早已投入大量力量寻找解决之道。
What is true, though, is, is that if I can establish in a way that not only the United States but also the international community feel confident is the use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime, then that is a game-changer because what that portends is potentially even more devastating attacks on civilians, and it raises the strong possibility that those chemical weapons can fall into the wrong hands and get disseminated in ways that would threaten U.S. security or the security of our allies. 不过，如果我能以美国和国际社会都确信的方式，证实阿萨德政权使用了化学武器，局面就会改变，因为那意味着平民可能遭受更具毁灭性的袭击，化学武器也极有可能落入不法分子手中并扩散，威胁美国及盟友的安全。
Question: By game-changer you mean U.S. military action? 记者：您说局面改变，是指美国会采取军事行动吗？
President Obama: By game-changer I mean that we would have to rethink the range of options that are available to us. Now, we’re already, as I’ve said, invested in trying to bring about a solution inside of Syria. Obviously, there are options that are available to me that are on the shelf right now that we have not deployed. And that’s a spectrum of options. As early as last year, I asked the Pentagon, our military, our intelligence officials to prepare for me what options might be available. 奥巴马总统：我的意思是，我们必须重新审视可供选择的一系列方案。正如我所说，我们已经在努力推动叙利亚问题的解决。显然，我还有一些现成但尚未采用的办法，而且选择不止一种。早在去年，我就要求国防部、军方和情报官员准备可供考虑的方案。
And I won’t go into the details of what those options might be, but clearly that would be an escalation, in our view, of the threat to the security of the international community, our allies, and the United States, and that means that there are some options that we might not otherwise exercise that we would strongly consider. 我不会谈这些方案的细节。但在我们看来，使用化学武器显然会使国际社会、盟友和美国面临的安全威胁升级，因此我们会认真考虑某些在其他情况下不会采取的措施。
Question: And on the Benghazi portion, I know pieces of this story have been litigated, you’ve been asked about it. But there are people in your own State Department saying they’ve been blocked from coming forward, that they survived the terror attack and they want to tell their story. Will you help them come forward and just say it once and for all? 记者：再问班加西。虽然这件事许多方面已经讨论过，您也回答过相关问题，但国务院内部有人说，他们在恐怖袭击中幸存，想讲述经历，却受到阻拦。您会帮助他们站出来，把事情一次说清楚吗？
President Obama: Ed, I’m not familiar with this notion that anybody has been blocked from testifying. So what I’ll do is I will find out what exactly you’re referring to. What I’ve been very clear about from the start is that our job with respect to Benghazi has been to find out exactly what happened, to make sure that U.S. embassies not just in the Middle East but around the world are safe and secure, and to bring those who carried it out to justice. But I'll find out what exactly you're referring to. 奥巴马总统：埃德，我不知道有任何人受到阻拦、无法作证。我会查明你具体指的是什么。从一开始，我就明确表示，我们在班加西事件上的任务是查清真相，确保美国驻中东和世界各地的大使馆安全，并将实施袭击的人绳之以法。你说的情况我会去了解。
Question: They've hired an attorney because they're saying that they've been blocked from coming forward. 记者：他们说受到阻拦，已经请了律师。
President Obama: I'm not familiar with it. 奥巴马总统：我不了解这件事。
Jessica. 杰西卡。
Question: Thank you, Mr. President. There's a report that your Director of National Intelligence has ordered a broad review -- this is regards to the Boston Marathon bombing -- that your DNI has ordered a broad review of all the intelligence-gathering prior to the attack. There is also a series of senators -- Susan Collins, Saxby Chambliss, Lindsey Graham -- who allege that all these years after 9/11, there still wasn't enough intelligence shared prior to the attack. 记者：谢谢总统先生。有报道称，针对波士顿马拉松爆炸案，您的国家情报总监已下令全面审查袭击前收集的所有情报。苏珊·柯林斯、萨克斯比·尚布利斯和林赛·格雷厄姆等参议员也认为，“九一一”过去这么多年，袭击前的情报共享仍然不足。
And now, Lindsey Graham, who is a senior member of the Armed Services Committee, has said that Benghazi and Boston are both examples of the U.S. going backwards on national security. Is he right? And did our intelligence miss something? 身为参议院军事委员会资深成员的格雷厄姆还说，班加西和波士顿两件事都说明美国的国家安全在倒退。他说得对吗？我们的情报部门漏掉了什么吗？
President Obama: No, Mr. Graham is not right on this issue, although I'm sure generated some headlines. I think that what we saw in Boston was state, local, federal officials, every agency rallying around a city that had been attacked -- identifying the perpetrators just hours after the scene had been examined. We now have one individual deceased, one in custody. Charges have been brought. 奥巴马总统：在这个问题上，格雷厄姆先生说得不对，尽管我相信他因此上了新闻标题。在波士顿，我们看到州、地方和联邦官员以及各机构齐心协力支援遭袭的城市；现场勘查后仅数小时就确认了嫌疑人。现在一人死亡，一人被拘押，起诉也已提起。
I think that all our law enforcement officials performed in an exemplary fashion after the bombing had taken place. And we should be very proud of their work, as obviously we're proud of the people of Boston and all the first responders and the medical personnel that helped save lives. 我认为爆炸发生后，所有执法人员都表现出色。我们应为他们的工作感到自豪，也应为波士顿人民以及挽救生命的急救和医护人员感到自豪。
What we also know is that the Russian intelligence services had alerted U.S. intelligence about the older brother, as well as the mother, indicating that they might be sympathizers to extremists. The FBI investigated that older brother. It's not as if the FBI did nothing. They not only investigated the older brother, they interviewed the older brother. They concluded that there were no signs that he was engaging in extremist activity. So that much we know. 我们还知道，俄罗斯情报部门曾向美国通报嫌疑人的哥哥及其母亲，称他们可能同情极端分子。联邦调查局调查了哥哥，并非什么都没做；他们不仅调查，还约谈了他，最终认为没有迹象表明他参与极端主义活动。我们目前知道的就是这些。
And the question then is was there something that happened that triggered radicalization and an actual decision by the brother to engage in the tragic attack we actually saw in Boston, and are there additional things that could have been done in that interim that might have prevented it. 接下来的问题是：后来是否发生了什么，使兄弟中的一人走向激进化，并最终决定实施波士顿那场悲剧性的袭击？在此期间，是否还能采取其他措施阻止袭击？
Now, what Director Clapper is doing is standard procedure around here, which is when an event like this happens we want to go back and we want to review every step that was taken. We want to leave no stone unturned. We want to see, is there, in fact, additional protocols and procedures that could be put in place that would further improve and enhance our ability to detect a potential attack? And we won't know that until that review is completed. We won't know that until the investigation of the actual crime is fully completed. And that's still ongoing. 克拉珀主任现在进行的是这里的标准程序：发生这类事件后，我们要回头审查每一步，不放过任何细节，看看能否增设规程，进一步提高发现潜在袭击的能力。审查完成前，我们无法得出结论；对犯罪本身的调查也尚未结束。
But what I can say is that based on what I've seen so far, the FBI performed its duties, the Department of Homeland Security did what it was supposed to be doing. 但根据我目前看到的情况，联邦调查局履行了职责，国土安全部也做了应做的事。
But this is hard stuff. And I’ve said for quite some time that because of the pressure that we put on al Qaeda core, because of the pressure that we’ve put on these networks that are well-financed and more sophisticated and can engage in and project transnational threats against the United States, one of the dangers that we now face are self-radicalized individuals who are already here in the United States -- in some cases, may not be part of any kind of network, but because of whatever warped, twisted ideas they may have, may decide to carry out an attack. 不过，这类问题很棘手。我早就说过，由于我们持续打击“基地”组织核心及那些资金充足、组织更严密、能够对美国发起跨国威胁的网络，如今面临的一项危险来自已经身处美国、自己走向激进化的人。他们有时不属于任何组织，却可能在扭曲观念驱使下决定发动袭击。
And those are in some ways more difficult to prevent. 从某种意义上说，这类袭击更难预防。
And so what I’ve done for months now is to indicate to our entire counterterrorism team, what more can we do on that threat that is looming on the horizon? Are there more things that we can do, whether it’s engaging with communities where there’s a potential for self-radicalization of this sort? Is there work that can be done in terms of detection? But all of this has to be done in the context of our laws, due process. And so part of what Director Clapper is doing, then, is going to be to see if we can determine any lessons learned from what happened. 因此，几个月来我一直要求整个反恐团队思考，面对这种逐渐显现的威胁，还能做些什么？我们能否与可能出现此类激进化的社区接触？在侦测方面还能采取什么措施？但所有工作都必须遵守法律和正当程序。克拉珀主任审查的一个目的，就是弄清我们能从这次事件中吸取什么教训。
Question: Are you getting all the intelligence and information you need from the Russians? And should Americans be worried when they go to big, public events now? 记者：俄罗斯是否提供了你们需要的全部情报和信息？美国人现在去大型公共活动场所是否该担心？
President Obama: The Russians have been very cooperative with us since the Boston bombing. Obviously, old habits die hard; there are still suspicions sometimes between our intelligence and law enforcement agencies that date back 10, 20, 30 years, back to the Cold War. But they’re continually improving. I’ve spoken to President Putin directly. He’s committed to working with me to make sure that those who report to us are cooperating fully in not only this investigation, but how do we work on counterterrorism issues generally. 奥巴马总统：波士顿爆炸案发生以来，俄罗斯一直十分配合。当然，旧习难改，两国情报和执法机构之间有时仍有源自十年、二十年甚至三十年前冷战时期的猜疑，但合作正不断改善。我直接与普京总统谈过，他承诺与我合作，确保双方下属不仅在这次调查中充分配合，也在更广泛的反恐问题上合作。
In terms of the response of the American people, I think everybody can take a cue from Boston. You don’t get a sense that anybody is intimidated when they go to Fenway Park a couple days after the bombing. There are joggers right now, I guarantee you, all throughout Boston and Cambridge and Watertown. And I think one of the things that I’ve been most proud of in watching the country’s response to the terrible tragedy there, is a sense of resilience and toughness, and we’re not going to be intimidated. We are going to live our lives. 至于美国人民该如何应对，我想大家可以看看波士顿。爆炸几天后，人们去芬威球场时并未显得畏缩。我敢保证，此刻波士顿、剑桥和沃特敦到处都有跑步的人。看到全国对那场悲剧的反应，最令我骄傲的就是这种韧性和坚强：我们不会被吓倒，我们会继续生活。
And people, I think, understand that we’ve got to do everything we can to prevent these kinds of attacks from taking place, but people also understand -- in the same way they understand after a shooting in Aurora or Newtown or Virginia Tech, or after the foiled attempts in Times Square or in Detroit -- that we’re not going to stop living our lives because warped, twisted individuals try to intimidate us. We’re going to do what we do -- which is go to work, raise our kids, go to ball games, run in marathons. 我想人们明白，我们必须竭尽全力预防袭击；但人们也明白，正如奥罗拉、纽敦、弗吉尼亚理工大学的枪击事件，或纽约时代广场和底特律未遂袭击发生后那样，我们不会因为几个思想扭曲的人试图恐吓我们，就停止正常生活。我们会照常上班、抚养孩子、看球赛、跑马拉松。
And at the same time, we’re going to make sure that everybody is cooperating and is vigilant in doing everything we can, without being naïve, to try to prevent these attacks from happening in the future. 与此同时，我们会确保各方合作、保持警惕，清醒地尽一切努力预防未来的袭击。
Jonathan Karl. 乔纳森·卡尔。
Question: Mr. President, you are a hundred days into your second term. On the gun bill, you put, it seems, everything into it to try to get it passed. Obviously, it didn’t. Congress has ignored your efforts to try to get them to undo these sequester cuts. There’s even a bill that you threatened to veto that got 92 Democrats in the House voting yes. So my question to you is do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this Congress? 记者：总统先生，您第二任期已经过了一百天。为了推动枪支法案，您好像倾尽了全力，但法案还是没通过。国会无视您撤销自动削减预算的努力。甚至有一项您扬言否决的法案，获得众议院九十二名民主党人的支持。因此我想问，您还有足够的政治影响力推动其余议程在本届国会通过吗？
President Obama: If you put it that way, Jonathan -- maybe I should just pack up and go home. Golly. I think it’s a little -- as Mark Twain said, rumors of my demise may be a little exaggerated at this point. 奥巴马总统：乔纳森，你这么一说，我也许该收拾东西回家了。天哪。我想，借用马克·吐温的话说，现在有关我政治生命终结的传闻恐怕有些夸张。
We understand that we’re in a divided government right now. The Republicans control the House of Representatives. In the Senate, this habit of requiring 60 votes for even the most modest piece of legislation has gummed up the works there. And I think it comes as no surprise not even to the American people, but even members of Congress themselves that right now things are pretty dysfunctional up on Capitol Hill. 我们知道当前是两党分掌权力的政府。共和党控制众议院；参议院连通过最温和的法案也习惯性地要求六十票，使立法陷入阻滞。我想不仅美国人民，连国会议员自己都不会对国会山眼下的运转失灵感到意外。
Despite that, I’m actually confident that there are a range of things that we’re going to be able to get done. I feel confident that the bipartisan work that’s been done on immigration reform will result in a bill that passes the Senate, passes the House, and gets on my desk. And that’s going to be a historic achievement. And I’ve been very complimentary of the efforts of both Republicans and Democrats in those efforts. 尽管如此，我依然相信我们能办成不少事。我相信两党在移民改革上的合作会促成一项法案通过参众两院，送到我的办公桌上。那将是历史性成就。我多次赞扬共和党人和民主党人为此付出的努力。
It is true that the sequester is in place right now. It’s damaging our economy. It’s hurting our people. And we need to lift it. What’s clear is, is that the only way we’re going to lift it is if we do a bigger deal that meets the test of lowering our deficit and growing our economy at the same time. And that’s going to require some compromises on the part of both Democrats and Republicans. 现在确实实行着自动削减预算。它损害经济，伤害人民，我们必须取消它。很明显，唯有达成一项更全面的协议，同时满足缩减赤字和促进经济增长的要求，才能做到这一点。这需要民主、共和两党都作出一些妥协。
I’ve had some good conversations with Republican senators so far. Those conversations are continuing. I think there’s a genuine desire on many of their parts to move past not only sequester but Washington dysfunction. Whether we can get it done or not, we’ll see. 到目前为止，我和几位共和党参议员谈得不错，谈话还会继续。我认为其中不少人真心希望摆脱自动削减预算，也摆脱华盛顿的失灵状态。最终能否做到，还要看结果。
But I think the sequester is a good example -- or this recent FAA issue is a good example. You will recall that even as recently as my campaign, Republicans we’re saying, sequester is terrible, this is a disaster, it’s going to ruin our military, it’s going to be disastrous for the economy -- we've got to do something about it. Then, when it was determined that doing something about it might mean that we close some tax loopholes for the wealthy and the well-connected, suddenly, well, you know what, we’ll take the sequester. 自动削减预算就是个好例子，最近联邦航空局的问题也是。你们还记得，就在我竞选期间，共和党人还说，自动削减预算太糟了，是灾难，会毁掉军队、重创经济，必须采取行动。可一旦发现采取行动可能意味着堵上富人和有权势者享用的税收漏洞，他们突然又说：算了，接受自动削减预算吧。
And the notion was somehow that we had exaggerated the effects of the sequester -- remember? The President is crying wolf. He’s Chicken Little. The sequester -- no problem. 随后又有人声称，是我们夸大了削减预算的影响。还记得吗？他们说总统在喊“狼来了”，说我杞人忧天，说削减预算根本不成问题。
And then in rapid succession, suddenly White House tours -- this is terrible! How can we let that happen? Meat inspectors -- we’ve got to fix that. And, most recently, what are we going to do about potential delays at airports? 紧接着，他们又一个接一个地惊呼：白宫参观暂停了，这怎么行！肉类检验员的问题必须解决！最近又问：机场可能出现航班延误怎么办？
So despite the fact that a lot of members of Congress were suggesting that somehow the sequester was a victory for them and this wouldn’t hurt the economy, what we now know is what I warned earlier, what Jay stood up here and warned repeatedly, is happening. It’s slowed our growth. It’s resulting in people being thrown out of work. And it’s hurting folks all across the country. 因此，尽管不少国会议员曾把自动削减预算说成自己的胜利，声称它不会伤害经济，现在我们看到，我和杰伊此前反复警告的事情正在发生：经济增长放缓，有人失业，全国各地的人都受到伤害。
And the fact that Congress responded to the short-term problem of flight delays by giving us the option of shifting money that’s designed to repair and improve airports over the long term to fix the short-term problem -- well, that’s not a solution. And essentially what we’ve done is we’ve said, in order to avoid delays this summer, we’re going to ensure delays for the next two or three decades. 国会为解决眼前航班延误问题，允许我们把原本用于长期修缮和改善机场的资金挪来应急，这并不是解决办法。实际上，我们为了避免今年夏天的延误，却可能造成未来二三十年的延误。
Question: Why’d you go along with it? 记者：那您为什么同意？
President Obama: Hold on a second. So the alternative, of course, is either to go ahead and impose a whole bunch of delays on passengers now -- which also does not fix the problem -- or the third alternative is to actually fix the problem by coming up with a broader, larger deal. 奥巴马总统：先听我说。另一种做法是现在就让大批旅客遭遇延误，但这同样解决不了问题。第三种办法才是真正解决问题：达成一项范围更广、更全面的协议。
But, Jonathon, you seem to suggest that somehow these folks over there have no responsibilities and that my job is to somehow get them to behave. That’s their job. They’re elected -- members of Congress are elected in order to do what’s right for their constituencies and for the American people. 可是乔纳森，你说得好像国会那些人毫无责任，而我的工作只是让他们好好表现。履行职责是他们自己的事。国会议员当选，是为了做对选民和美国人民有利的事。
So if, in fact, they are seriously concerned about passenger convenience and safety, then they shouldn’t just be thinking about tomorrow or next week or the week after that; they should be thinking about what’s going to happen five years from now, 10 years from now, or 15 years from now. The only way to do that is for them to engage with me on coming up with a broader deal. And that’s exactly what I’m trying to do -- is to continue to talk to them about are there ways for us to fix this. 如果他们真的关心旅客的便利与安全，就不该只考虑明天、下周或再下一周，还应该考虑五年、十年、十五年后的情况。要做到这一点，他们必须与我合作，达成更广泛的协议。这也正是我不断同他们沟通、努力解决问题的原因。
Frankly, I don’t think that if I were to veto, for example, this FAA bill, that that somehow would lead to the broader fix. It just means that there would be pain now, which they would try to blame on me, as opposed to pain five years from now. But either way, the problem is not getting fixed. 坦白说，即便我否决这项联邦航空局法案，也不会因此促成更全面的解决方案。它只会让痛苦现在发生，而他们会试图把责任推给我；否则痛苦就在五年后出现。无论如何，问题都没有解决。
The only way the problem does get fixed is if both parties sit down and they say: How are we going to make sure that we're reducing our deficit sensibly? How are we making sure that we're investing in things like rebuilding our airports and our roads and our bridges, and investing in early childhood education, basic research -- all the things that are going to help us grow? And that's what the American people want. 唯一的解决办法是两党坐下来商量：怎样合理缩减赤字？怎样投资修建机场、公路和桥梁，以及幼儿教育、基础研究等有助于经济增长的领域？这才是美国人民希望看到的。
Just one interesting statistic when it comes to airports. There was a recent survey of the top airports in the country -- in the world, and there was not a single U.S. airport that came in the top 25. Not one. Not one U.S. airport was considered by the experts and consumers who use these airports to be in the top 25 in the world. I think Cincinnati Airport came in around 30th. 说到机场，有个有趣的数据。最近一项全球最佳机场调查中，没有一家美国机场进入前二十五名，一家也没有。专家和旅客评出的全球前二十五名里，没有一家美国机场。我想辛辛那提机场大约排第三十。
What does that say about our long-term competitiveness and future? And so when folks say, well, there was some money in the FAA to deal with these furloughs -- well, yeah, the money is this pool of funds that are supposed to try to upgrade our airports so we don't rank in the bottom of industrialized countries when it comes to our infrastructure. 这说明我们的长期竞争力和未来会怎样？所以有人说，联邦航空局明明有钱应对员工无薪休假的问题。是的，但那笔钱原本是为改善机场而设，好让我们的基础设施不至于在工业化国家中落到末尾。
And that's what we're doing -- we're using our seed corn short term. And the only reason we're doing it is because right now we've got folks who are unwilling to make some simple changes to our tax code, for example, to close loopholes that aren't adding to our competitiveness and aren't helping middle-class families. 我们现在做的是把留作来年播种的种子提前吃掉。这样做的唯一原因，是目前有人不肯对税法作些简单调整，比如堵上那些既无助于竞争力、也无益于中产家庭的漏洞。
So that's a long way of answering your question, but the point is that there are common-sense solutions to our problems right now. I cannot force Republicans to embrace those common-sense solutions. I can urge them to. I can put pressure on them. I can rally the American people around those common-sense solutions. But ultimately, they, themselves, are going to have to say, we want to do the right thing. 这个回答有点长，但要点是：眼下的问题有符合常识的解决办法。我无法强迫共和党人接受，却可以敦促他们、向他们施压，动员美国人民支持这些办法。不过最终，他们自己必须决定要做正确的事。
And I think there are members certainly in the Senate right now, and I suspect members in the House as well, who understand that deep down. But they're worried about their politics. It’s tough. Their base thinks that compromise with me is somehow a betrayal. They’re worried about primaries. And I understand all that. And we're going to try to do everything we can to create a permission structure for them to be able to do what’s going to be best for the country. But it’s going to take some time. 我相信参议院里肯定有人明白这一点，众议院里大概也有。但他们担心自身的政治处境，这很难。他们的基本盘认为与我妥协就是背叛；他们担心党内初选。我理解这些顾虑。我们会尽力创造条件，使他们能够为国家利益行事，但这需要时间。
Bill Plante. 比尔·普兰特。
Question: Mr. President, as you’re probably aware, there’s a growing hunger strike on Guantanamo Bay among prisoners there. Is it any surprise really that they would prefer death rather than have no end in sight to their confinement? 记者：总统先生，您大概知道，关塔那摩湾囚犯的绝食行动正在扩大。他们看不到拘禁何时结束，宁愿死去，这真的令人意外吗？
President Obama: Well, it is not a surprise to me that we've got problems in Guantanamo, which is why when I was campaigning in 2007 and 2008, and when I was elected in 2008, I said we need to close Guantanamo. I continue to believe that we've got to close Guantanamo. 奥巴马总统：关塔那摩存在问题，我一点也不意外。因此我在二〇〇七、二〇〇八年竞选，以及二〇〇八年当选后，都说过必须关闭关塔那摩。我至今仍这样认为。
Question: -- can do it? 记者：——您能办到吗？
President Obama: Well, I think it is critical for us to understand that Guantanamo is not necessary to keep America safe. It is expensive. It is inefficient. It hurts us in terms of our international standing. It lessens cooperation with our allies on counterterrorism efforts. It is a recruitment tool for extremists. It needs to be closed. 奥巴马总统：我们必须明白，保障美国安全并不需要关塔那摩。它耗资巨大、效率低下，损害我们的国际声誉，削弱盟友与我们在反恐方面的合作，还成了极端分子的招募工具。它必须关闭。
Now, Congress determined that they would not let us close it -- and despite the fact that there are a number of the folks who are currently in Guantanamo who the courts have said could be returned to their country of origin or potentially a third country. 然而国会决定不让我们关闭它，尽管法院认为目前关押在那里的不少人可以返回原籍国，或前往第三国。
I'm going to go back at this. I've asked my team to review everything that's currently being done in Guantanamo, everything that we can do administratively. And I'm going to reengage with Congress to try to make the case that this is not something that's in the best interest of the American people. And it's not sustainable. 我会重新推动这件事。我已要求团队审查关塔那摩目前的所有做法，以及行政部门能够采取的一切措施。我也会再次与国会交涉，说明继续维持它不符合美国人民的利益，也不可持续。
The notion that we're going to continue to keep over a hundred individuals in a no-man's land in perpetuity, even at a time when we've wound down the war in Iraq, we're winding down the war in Afghanistan, we're having success defeating al Qaeda core, we've kept the pressure up on all these transnational terrorist networks, when we've transferred detention authority in Afghanistan -- the idea that we would still maintain forever a group of individuals who have not been tried, that is contrary to who we are, it is contrary to our interests, and it needs to stop. 我们已经结束伊拉克战争，正在结束阿富汗战争，打击“基地”组织核心取得进展，继续向跨国恐怖网络施压，并已移交阿富汗的拘押权限。在这样的情况下，还要把一百多人永久关在一个法律上的灰色地带，让一群未经审判的人被无限期关押，这违背我们的立国原则，也违背我们的利益，必须停止。
Now, it's a hard case to make because I think for a lot of Americans the notion is out of sight, out of mind. And it's easy to demagogue the issue. That's what happened the first time this came up. I'm going to go back at it because I think it's important. 我知道这很难说服公众。对许多美国人而言，关塔那摩看不见，就容易被忘记；这个问题也很容易被煽动利用。第一次讨论关闭它时就是这样。但我会再次努力，因为这件事很重要。
Question: Meanwhile we continue to force-feed these folks -- 记者：与此同时，我们还在强制给这些人喂食——
President Obama: I don't want these individuals to die. Obviously, the Pentagon is trying to manage the situation as best as they can. But I think all of us should reflect on why exactly are we doing this? Why are we doing this? We've got a whole bunch of individuals who have been tried who are currently in maximum security prisons around the country. Nothing has happened to them. Justice has been served. It's been done in a way that's consistent with our Constitution, consistent with due process, consistent with rule of law, consistent with our traditions. 奥巴马总统：我不希望他们死去。国防部显然正尽力处理局面。但我们都该想想，我们为什么要这样做？为什么？全国各地的最高安全等级监狱里关着许多已经受审的人，没有出事。正义得到了伸张，处理方式也符合宪法、正当程序、法治和我们的传统。
The individual who attempted to bomb Times Square -- in prison, serving a life sentence. The individual who tried to bomb a plane in Detroit -- in prison, serving a life sentence. A Somali who was part of Al-Shabaab, who we captured -- in prison. So we can handle this. 试图炸毁时代广场的人在监狱里服无期徒刑；试图炸毁底特律航班的人也在服无期徒刑；我们抓获的一名索马里青年党成员也在监狱里。所以，我们有能力处理这类案件。
And I understand that in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, with the traumas that had taken place, why, for a lot of Americans, the notion was somehow that we had to create a special facility like Guantanamo and we couldn’t handle this in a normal, conventional fashion. I understand that reaction. But we’re now over a decade out. We should be wiser. We should have more experience in how we prosecute terrorists. 我理解“九一一”刚发生后，许多美国人遭受创伤，认为必须建立关塔那摩这样的特殊设施，无法用常规司法方式处理。我理解那种反应。但十多年过去，我们应该更明智，也应该更有经验地起诉恐怖分子。
And this is a lingering problem that is not going to get better. It’s going to get worse. It’s going to fester. And so I’m going to, as I said before, examine every option that we have administratively to try to deal with this issue, but ultimately we’re also going to need some help from Congress, and I’m going to ask some folks over there who care about fighting terrorism but also care about who we are as a people to step up and help me on it. 这是一个悬而未决的问题，不会自行好转，只会恶化并不断溃烂。正如我刚才所说，我会审查行政部门处理它的所有办法；但最终还需要国会帮助。我会请那些既重视反恐、也珍视我们国家价值观的议员站出来支持。
Chuck Todd. 查克·托德。
Question: Mr. President, thank you. Max Baucus, Democratic Senator, referred to the implementation as your health care law as a potential train wreck. And other Democrats have been whispering nervousness about the implementation and the impact -- and it’s all self-centered a little bit -- the impact that it might have on their own political campaigns in 2014. Why do you think -- just curious -- why does Senator Baucus, somebody who ostensibly helped write your bill, believe that this is going to be a train wreck? And why do you believe he’s wrong? 记者：谢谢总统先生。民主党参议员马克斯·鲍卡斯说，您的医疗法案在实施时可能成为一场“火车脱轨事故”。其他民主党人也私下担忧实施过程及其影响，尤其有些人担心对自己二〇一四年的竞选不利。我很好奇，鲍卡斯明明参与起草了这项法案，为什么还认为它会出大问题？您又为什么认为他错了？
President Obama: Well, I think that any time you’re implementing something big, there’s going to be people who are nervous and anxious about is it going to get done, until it’s actually done. 奥巴马总统：我想，任何重大举措在真正落实之前，都会有人担心能否办成。
But let’s just step back for a second and make sure the American people understand what it is that we’re doing. The Affordable Care Act -- Obamacare -- has now been with us for three years. It’s gone through Supreme Court tests. It’s gone through efforts to repeal. A huge chunk of it has already been implemented. And for the 85 to 90 percent of Americans who already have health insurance, they’re already experiencing most of the benefits of the Affordable Care Act even if they don’t know it. Their insurance is more secure. Insurance companies can’t drop them for bad reasons. 但我们先退一步，让美国人民明白我们正在做什么。《平价医疗法案》，也就是大家说的“奥巴马医改”，已经实施三年。它经受了最高法院审查和废除它的种种尝试，很大一部分条款已经落实。已经拥有医疗保险的百分之八十五至九十的美国人，即使自己没意识到，也已享受到大部分好处。他们的保险更有保障，保险公司不能再随意取消保单。
Their kids are able to stay on their health insurance until they’re 26 years old. They’re getting free preventive care. 他们的子女可以留在父母的医保计划中，直到二十六岁；他们还能免费获得预防性医疗服务。
So there are a whole host of benefits that, for the average American out there, for the 85 to 90 percent of Americans who already have health insurance, this thing has already happened. And their only impact is that their insurance is stronger, better, more secure than it was before. Full stop. That’s it. They don’t have to worry about anything else. 所以，对那百分之八十五至九十已经投保的美国人来说，许多好处已经实现。唯一的影响是他们的保险比以前更稳固、更好、更可靠。就这么简单，他们无需再为其他事担心。
The implementation issues come in for those who don’t have health insurance -- maybe because they have a preexisting condition and the only way they can get health insurance is to go out on the individual market, and they’re paying 50 percent or 100 percent more than those of us who are lucky enough to have group plans; people who are too poor to get health insurance and the employers don’t offer them. Maybe they work for a small business and this small business can’t afford right now to provide health insurance. 实施上的难题涉及没有医保的人。他们也许患有既往病症，只能在个人保险市场投保，保费比享有团体保险的幸运者高出百分之五十甚至一倍；也有人收入太低，无力购买保险，雇主又不提供；还有人受雇于目前负担不起员工医保的小企业。
So all the implementation issues that are coming up are implementation issues related to that small group of people, 10 to 15 percent of Americans -- now, it’s still 30 million Americans, but a relatively narrow group -- who don’t have health insurance right now, or are on the individual market and are paying exorbitant amounts for coverage that isn’t that great. 因此，接下来的实施难题集中在这一小部分人身上，约占美国人的百分之十至十五。虽然这仍有三千万人，但相对来说范围较窄。他们目前没有保险，或只能在个人市场花高价购买保障并不理想的保险。
And what we’re doing is we’re setting up a pool so that they can all pool together and get a better deal from insurance companies. And those who can’t afford it, we’re going to provide them with some subsidies. That’s it. I mean, that’s what’s left to implement, because the other stuff has been implemented and it’s working fine. 我们要建立一个保险市场，让他们集合起来向保险公司争取更好的价格。负担不起的人将获得补贴。就这么回事。这就是尚待落实的部分，其他条款已经实施，而且运行良好。
The challenge is that setting up a market-based system, basically an online marketplace where you can go on and sign up and figure out what kind of insurance you can afford and figuring out how to get the subsidies -- that’s still a big, complicated piece of business. 挑战在于，建立一套以市场为基础的制度，实际上就是建立一个网上保险市场，让人们登录后选择负担得起的保险，并确定如何领取补贴。这仍是一项庞大而复杂的工作。
And when you’re doing it nationwide, relatively fast, and you’ve got half of Congress who is determined to try to block implementation and not adequately funding implementation, and then you’ve got a number of members of -- or governors -- Republican governors -- who know that it’s bad politics for them to try to implement this effectively, and some even who have decided to implement it and then their Republican-controlled state legislatures say, don’t implement, and won’t pass enabling legislation -- when you have that kind of situation, that makes it harder. 要在全国相对迅速地推行，同时国会有一半议员决心阻挠实施、不肯提供充足经费；还有一些共和党州长认为有效落实法案在政治上对自己不利，有的州长虽决定实施，但由共和党控制的州议会却拒绝通过必要的法律。在这种情况下，实施当然更加困难。
But having said all that, we’ve got a great team in place. We are pushing very hard to make sure that we’re hitting all the deadlines and the benchmarks. I’ll give you an example, a recent example. We put together, initially, an application form for signing up for participation in the exchanges that was initially about 21 pages long, and immediately everybody sat around the table and said, well, this is too long. Especially in this age of the Internet, people aren’t going to have the patience to sit there for hours on end. Let’s streamline this thing. 尽管如此，我们有一支优秀团队，正全力确保达到每个期限和阶段目标。举个最近的例子：最初设计的医保交易市场申请表大约有二十一页。大家坐下来一看，马上说太长了。尤其在互联网时代，人们没耐心花几个小时填写。必须精简。
So we cut what was a 21-page form now down to a form that’s about three pages for an individual, a little more than that for a family -- well below the industry average. So those kinds of refinements we’re going to continue to be working on. 于是我们把二十一页的申请表缩短到个人只需约三页，家庭申请稍长一点，远低于行业平均水平。这类改进我们会继续做。
But I think the main message I want to give to the American people here is, despite all the hue and cry and “sky is falling” predictions about this stuff, if you’ve already got health insurance, then that part of Obamacare that affects you, it’s pretty much already in place. And that’s about 85 percent of the country. 我想给美国人民传达的主要信息是：尽管外界吵嚷不休，预言天要塌下来，如果你已经有医保，“奥巴马医改”与你相关的部分大体已经落实。这适用于全国约百分之八十五的人。
What is left to be implemented is those provisions to help the 10 to 15 percent of the American public that is unlucky enough that they don’t have health insurance. And by the way, some of you who have health insurance right now, at some point you may lose your health insurance, and if you’ve got a preexisting condition, this structure will make sure that you are not left vulnerable. 剩下待实施的，是帮助另外百分之十至十五尚无医保的不幸人群的条款。顺便说一句，现在有医保的人将来也可能失去保险；如果你有既往病症，新制度会确保你不至于毫无保障。
But it’s still a big undertaking. And what we’re doing is making sure that every single day we are constantly trying to hit our marks so that it will be in place. 不过，这仍是一项艰巨任务。我们每天都在努力达到各项进度目标，确保制度按时建立。
And the last point I’ll make -- even if we do everything perfectly, there will still be glitches and bumps, and there will be stories that can be written that say, oh, look, this thing is not working the way it’s supposed to, and this happened and that happened. And that’s pretty much true of every government program that’s ever been set up. 最后我要说，即使我们把一切做得尽善尽美，也仍会遇到故障和磕绊。人们仍会写报道说：“看，这个环节没按计划运作，又出了这样那样的事。”几乎所有新设的政府项目都会遇到这种情况。
But if we stay with it and we understand what our long-term objective is -- which is making sure that in a country as wealthy as ours, nobody should go bankrupt if they get sick, and that we would rather have people getting regular checkups than going to the emergency room because they don’t have health care -- if we keep that in mind, then we’re going to be able to drive down costs; we’re going to be able to improve efficiencies in the system; we’re going to be able to see people benefit from better health care. And that will save the country money as a whole over the long term. 但只要我们坚持，记住长期目标——在我们这样富裕的国家，任何人都不该因生病而破产；我们宁愿人们定期体检，也不愿他们因缺乏医疗保障而只能去急诊室——我们就能降低成本、提高制度效率，让人们享有更好的医疗照护。长远来看，这也能为整个国家节省开支。
Question: Do you believe, without the cooperation of a handful of governors, particularly large states like Florida and Texas, that you can fully implement this? 记者：如果佛罗里达和得克萨斯等大州的几位州长不合作，您认为仍能全面实施吗？
President Obama:: I think it’s harder. There’s no doubt about it. 奥巴马总统：无疑会更困难。
Question: But can you do it without them? 记者：但没有他们，您还能实施吗？
President Obama: We will implement it. There will be -- we have a backup federal exchange. If states aren’t cooperating, we set up a federal exchange so that people can access that federal exchange. But, yes, it puts more of a burden on us. And it’s ironic, since all these folks say that they believe in empowering states, that they’re going to end up having the federal government do something that we’d actually prefer states to do if they were properly cooperating. Let’s see how we’re doing on time here. Last question. Antonieta Cadiz -- where’s Antonieta? There you are. 奥巴马总统：我们会实施。联邦层面设有备用的医保交易市场。若各州不配合，我们会设立联邦交易市场供民众使用。是的，这会增加我们的负担。讽刺的是，这些人总说要赋予各州权力，结果却让联邦政府去做我们本来更希望各州配合完成的事。看看时间，最后一个问题。安东涅塔·卡迪斯在哪里？啊，你在那儿。
Tell those big guys to get out of your way. 让那几个大个子给你让条路。
Question: Thank you, Mr. President. Two questions. There are concerns about how the immigration bill from the House has complicated chances for immigration reform in the Senate. It seems to be a more conservative proposal. Is there room for a more conservative proposal than the one presented in the Senate? That’s immigration. 记者：谢谢总统先生。我有两个问题。有人担心众议院提出的移民法案让参议院的移民改革更难通过，因为它似乎更保守。参议院的方案还有向更保守方向调整的余地吗？这是移民问题。
Second, on Mexico -- yesterday, the Mexican government said all contact with the U.S. law enforcement will now go through a single door, the Federal Interior Ministry. Is this change good for the U.S. relationship with Mexico? Do you think the level of security and cooperation can be maintained? 第二个问题关于墨西哥。墨西哥政府昨天说，今后与美国执法部门的所有联系都要通过联邦内政部这个单一窗口。这种变化有利于美墨关系吗？您认为两国安全合作的水平能维持吗？
President Obama: On immigration reform, I’ve been impressed by the work that was done by the Gang of Eight in the Senate. The bill that they produced is not the bill that I would have written, there are elements of it that I would change, but I do think that it meets the basic criteria that I laid out from the start, which is: We’ve got to have more effective border security -- although it should build on the great improvements that have been made on border security over the last four to five years. We should make sure that we are cracking down on employers that are gaming the system. 奥巴马总统：谈到移民改革，参议院“八人小组”的工作令我印象深刻。他们起草的法案不是我自己会写出的版本，其中有些内容我会修改，但我认为它符合我一开始提出的基本标准：我们需要更有效的边境安全，同时也要在过去四五年取得的重大进展上继续改进；我们还必须打击钻制度空子的雇主。
We should make the legal immigration system work more effectively so that the waits are not as burdensome, the bureaucracy is not as complicated, so that we can continue to attract the best and the brightest from around the world to our shores in a legal fashion. And we want to make sure that we’ve got a pathway to citizenship that is tough, but allows people to earn over time their legal status here in this country. 我们要让合法移民制度更有效率，减轻漫长等待和繁琐手续的负担，使世界各地最优秀的人才能继续通过合法途径来到美国。我们还要为人们建立一条要求严格、但允许他们逐步争取合法身份和公民资格的道路。
And the Senate bill meets those criteria -- in some cases not in the way that I would, but it meets those basic criteria. And I think it’s a testament to the senators that were involved that they made some tough choices and made some tough compromises in order to hammer out that bill. 参议院法案符合这些标准，虽然有些地方的做法并非我的首选。我认为参与起草的参议员能够作出艰难抉择、达成艰难妥协，最终形成法案，值得肯定。
Now, I haven’t seen what members of the House are yet proposing. And maybe they think that they can answer some of those questions differently or better. And I think we’ve got to be open-minded in seeing what they come up with. The bottom line, though, is, is that they’ve still got to meet those basic criteria: Is it making the border safer? Is it dealing with employers in how they work with the government to make sure that people are not being taken advantage of, or taking advantage of the system? Are we improving our legal immigration system? 目前我还没看到众议院议员准备提出什么方案。也许他们认为自己能以不同或更好的方式回答这些问题。我们应该以开放态度看看他们拿出什么。但底线仍是这些基本标准：边境是否更安全？是否规范雇主与政府的合作，避免人们受到剥削或滥用制度？合法移民制度是否得到改善？
And are we creating a pathway for citizenship for the 11 million or so who are undocumented in this country? 是否为这个国家约一千一百万无证移民提供取得公民资格的途径？
And if they meet those criteria but they’re slightly different than the Senate bill, then I think that we should be able to come up with an appropriate compromise. If it doesn’t meet those criteria, then I will not support such a bill. So we’ll have to wait and see. 如果众议院方案符合这些标准，只是与参议院法案略有不同，我们就应该能够达成适当妥协。如果达不到标准，我就不会支持。我们还要等着看。
When it comes to Mexico, I’m very much looking forward to taking the trip down to Mexico to see the new President, Peña Nieto. I had a chance to meet him here, but this will be the first, more extensive consultations and it will be an opportunity for his ministers, my Cabinet members who are participating to really hammer out some of these issues. 至于墨西哥，我非常期待前往那里与新总统培尼亚·涅托会面。我们之前在这里见过，但这次将进行首次更深入的磋商，随行的墨方部长和美方内阁成员也有机会认真讨论这些问题。
A lot of the focus is going to be on economics. We’ve spent so much time on security issues between the United States and Mexico that sometimes I think we forget this is a massive trading partner responsible for huge amounts of commerce and huge numbers of jobs on both sides of the border. We want to see how we can deepen that, how we can improve that and maintain that economic dialogue over a long period of time. 讨论的一大重点将是经济。美墨两国花了太多时间谈安全，有时忘了双方还是规模庞大的贸易伙伴；两国边境两侧的大量商业活动和就业都与此相关。我们希望探讨如何深化和改善这种关系，并长期保持经济对话。
That doesn’t mean that we’re not going to be talking about security. I think that in my first conversation with the President, he indicated to me that he very much continues to be concerned about how we can work together to deal with transnational drug cartels. We’ve made great strides in the coordination and cooperation between our two governments over the last several years. But my suspicion is, is that things can be improved. 这并不意味着不谈安全。首次与培尼亚·涅托总统交谈时，我认为他表示非常关心如何合作应对跨国贩毒集团。过去几年，两国政府的协调合作取得显著进展，但我想仍有改善空间。
And some of the issues that he’s talking about really had to do with refinements and improvements in terms of how Mexican authorities work with each other, how they coordinate more effectively, and it has less to do with how they're dealing with us, per se. So I’m not going to yet judge how this will alter the relationship between the United States and Mexico until I’ve heard directly from them to see what exactly are they trying to accomplish. 他谈到的一些问题，实际上更多涉及墨西哥各部门之间如何改进工作、加强协调，而非墨方如何与我们打交道。因此，在直接听他们说明想实现什么之前，我不会判断这会怎样改变美墨关系。
But, overall, what I can say is that my impression is, is that the new President is serious about reform. He’s already made some tough decisions. I think he’s going to make more that will improve the economy and security of Mexican citizens, and that will improve the bilateral relationship as well. 总体上，我的印象是新总统认真对待改革。他已作出一些艰难决定，我相信他还会采取更多措施，改善墨西哥人民的经济和安全状况，也改善双边关系。
And I don't want to leave out that we’re also going to be talking to, during my visit to Costa Rica, Presidents of Central American countries, many of whom are struggling with both economic issues and security issues, but are important partners for us -- because I think that the vision here is that we want to make sure that our hemisphere is more effectively integrated to improve the economy and security of all people. That's good for the United States. That will enhance our economy. That can improve our energy independence. 我还要补充：访问哥斯达黎加期间，我们会同一些中美洲国家的总统会谈。这些国家不少同时面临经济与安全问题，也是我们的重要伙伴。我们的愿景是让整个西半球更有效地融合，改善所有人的经济和安全状况。这有利于美国，能促进我们的经济，也有助于提高能源独立程度。
There are a whole range of opportunities, and that's going to be the purpose of this trip. And I’m sure that those of you who will have the chance to travel with me we’ll have a chance to discuss this further. 机会很多，这正是此行的目的。我相信同行的记者会有机会继续与我讨论。
All right? Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you, guys. 好吧？非常感谢大家。谢谢各位。
Question: Jason Collins? Do you want to say anything about it? 记者：杰森·科林斯呢？您愿意谈谈他吗？
President Obama: Yes, I’ll say something about Jason Collins. I had a chance to talk to him yesterday. He seems like a terrific young man. And I told him I couldn’t be prouder of him. One of the extraordinary measures of progress that we’ve seen in this country has been the recognition that the LGBT community deserves full equality -- not just partial equality, not just tolerance, but a recognition that they're fully a part of the American family. 奥巴马总统：好，我说说杰森·科林斯。昨天我与他交谈过。他看来是一位很了不起的年轻人。我告诉他，我为他感到无比骄傲。我们国家进步的一项非凡标志，就是认识到男女同性恋、双性恋和跨性别群体应当享有完全平等的地位：不只是部分平等，也不只是被容忍，而是真正被承认为美国家庭不可分割的一员。
And given the importance of sports in our society, for an individual who has excelled at the highest levels in one of the major sports to go ahead and say, this is who I am, I’m proud of it, I’m still a great competitor, I’m still seven foot tall and can bang with Shaq -- and deliver a hard foul -- and for I think a lot of young people out there who are gay or lesbian who are struggling with these issues, to see a role model like that who is unafraid, I think it’s a great thing. 体育在我们的社会中十分重要。一位在主流体育项目的最高水平上取得成就的运动员站出来说：“这就是我，我为此自豪。我依然是一名优秀的选手，依然身高七英尺，仍能与沙奎尔·奥尼尔对抗，必要时狠狠犯规。”我想，许多正在为自身身份困扰的年轻同性恋者，看见这样一位无所畏惧的榜样，是件非常好的事。
And I think America should be proud that this is just one more step in this ongoing recognition that we treat everybody fairly, and everybody is part of a family, and we judge people on the basis of their character and their performance and not their sexual orientation. So I’m very proud of him. 美国应为此感到骄傲。这是我们不断认识到应公平对待每个人的又一步：每个人都是这个大家庭的一员，我们应该依据品格和表现评价一个人，而非依据性取向。我非常为他骄傲。
All right? 好了？