President Obama: I first of all want to thank Prime Minister Netanyahu for making this visit. I think we had a extraordinarily productive series of conversations, not only between the two of us but also at the staff and agency levels. 奥巴马总统：首先，我要感谢内塔尼亚胡总理此次来访。我认为我们进行了一系列极具成效的对话，不仅是我们两人之间，在工作人员和机构层面也是如此。
Obviously this reflects the extraordinary relationship, the special relationship between the United States and Israel. It is a stalwart ally of the United States. We have historical ties, emotional ties. As the only true democracy of the Middle East it is a source of admiration and inspiration for the American people. 显然，这反映了美国与以色列之间非凡的、特殊的关系。以色列是美国坚定的盟友。我们之间有历史纽带，也有情感纽带。作为中东唯一真正的民主国家，它是美国人民钦佩和启发的源泉。
I have said from the outset that when it comes to my policies towards Israel and the Middle East that Israel's security is paramount, and I repeated that to Prime Minister Netanyahu. It is in U.S. national security interests to assure that Israel's security as an independent Jewish state is maintained. 我从一开始就说过，在涉及我对以色列和中东政策的问题上，以色列的安全至关重要，我向内塔尼亚胡总理重申了这一点。维护以色列作为一个独立犹太国家的安全，符合美国的国家安全利益。
One of the areas that we discussed is the deepening concern around the potential pursuit of a nuclear weapon by Iran. It's something the Prime Minister has been very vocal in his concerns about, but is a concern that is shared by his countrymen and women across the political spectrum. 我们讨论的问题之一，是对伊朗可能寻求核武器的日益加深的担忧。这是总理一直大声疾呼关切的问题，也是以色列各政治派别的男女国民共同关切的。
I indicated to him the view of our administration, that Iran is a country of extraordinary history and extraordinary potential, that we want them to be a full-fledged member of the international community and be in a position to provide opportunities and prosperity for their people, but that the way to achieve those goals is not through the pursuit of a nuclear weapon. 我向他阐述了本届政府的观点：伊朗是一个拥有非凡历史和非凡潜力的国家，我们希望它成为国际社会的正式成员，能够为本国人民提供机会和繁荣，但实现这些目标的途径不是通过寻求核武器。
And I indicated to Prime Minister Netanyahu in private what I have said publicly, which is that Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon would not only be a threat to Israel and a threat to the United States, but would be profoundly destabilizing in the international community as a whole and could set off a nuclear arms race in the Middle East that would be extraordinarily dangerous for all concerned, including for Iran. 我也私下向内塔尼亚胡总理重申了我公开讲过的话，那就是：伊朗获得核武器不仅是对以色列的威胁、对美国的威胁，而且将对整个国际社会造成深远的破坏性影响，并可能在中东引发核军备竞赛，对所有相关方——包括伊朗在内——都将极其危险。
We are engaged in a process to reach out to Iran and persuade them that it is not in their interest to pursue a nuclear weapon and that they should change course. But I assured the Prime Minister that we are not foreclosing a range of steps, including much stronger international sanctions, in assuring that Iran understands that we are serious. And obviously the Prime Minister emphasized his seriousness around this issue as well -- I'll allow him to speak for himself on that subject. 我们正在与伊朗接触，说服他们相信追求核武器并不符合他们的利益，他们应当改变路线。但我向总理保证，我们并未排除一系列步骤，包括更强有力的国际制裁，以确保伊朗明白我们是认真的。显然，总理本人也强调了他对这一问题的严肃态度——这个问题我让他自己来谈。
We also had an extensive discussion about the possibilities of restarting serious negotiations on the issue of Israel and the Palestinians. I have said before and I will repeat again that it is I believe in the interest not only of the Palestinians, but also the Israelis and the United States and the international community to achieve a two-state solution in which Israelis and Palestinians are living side by side in peace and security. 我们还就重启以色列与巴勒斯坦人之间严肃谈判的可能性进行了广泛讨论。我过去说过，现在再重申一遍：我认为，实现两国方案——让以色列人和巴勒斯坦人在和平与安全中比邻而居——不仅符合巴勒斯坦人的利益，也符合以色列人、美国以及国际社会的利益。
We have seen progress stalled on this front, and I suggested to the Prime Minister that he has an historic opportunity to get a serious movement on this issue during his tenure. That means that all the parties involved have to take seriously obligations that they've previously agreed to. Those obligations were outlined in the road map; they were discussed extensively in Annapolis. 我们看到这一方面的进展已经停滞。我向总理建议，他在任内有一个历史性机遇，可以推动这一问题取得实质性进展。这意味着所有相关方都必须认真对待他们此前已商定的义务。这些义务在路线图中已经列出，在安纳波利斯会议上也进行了广泛讨论。
And I think that we can -- there is no reason why we should not seize this opportunity and this moment for all the parties concerned to take seriously those obligations and to move forward in a way that assures Israel's security, that stops the terrorist attacks that have been such a source of pain and hardship, that we can stop rocket attacks on Israel; but that also allow Palestinians to govern themselves as an independent state, that allows economic development to take place, that allows them to make serious progress in meeting the aspirations of their people. 我认为我们可以——我们没有理由不抓住这一机遇和这一时刻，让所有相关方都认真对待这些义务，并以确保以色列安全、制止造成如此多痛苦和困难的恐怖袭击、制止对以色列的火箭弹袭击的方式向前推进；同时也让巴勒斯坦人能够作为独立国家自治，让经济发展得以进行，让他们在满足本民族人民愿望方面取得实质性进展。
And I am confident that in the days, weeks and months to come we are going to be able to make progress on that issue. 我相信，在未来的日子里、几周内、几个月内，我们将能够在这一问题上取得进展。
So let me just summarize by saying that I think Prime Minister Netanyahu has the benefit of having served as Prime Minister previously. He has both youth and wisdom -- 那么，让我总结一下。我认为内塔尼亚胡总理有此前担任总理的经历可资借鉴。他既年轻又充满智慧——
Prime Minister Netanyahu: I'll dispute youth, but -- 内塔尼亚胡总理：我要对"年轻"提出异议，不过——
President Obama: -- and I think is in a position to achieve the security objectives of Israel, but also bring about historic peace. And I'm confident that he's going to seize this moment. And the United States is going to do everything we can to be constructive, effective partners in this process. 奥巴马总统：——我认为他有能力实现以色列的安全目标，同时也能推动实现历史性的和平。我相信他会抓住这一时刻。美国将尽我们所能，成为这一过程中建设性、有效的合作伙伴。
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU: President Obama, thank you. Thank you for your friendship to Israel and your friendship to me. You're a great leader -- a great leader of the United States, a great leader of the world, a great friend of Israel, and someone who is acutely cognizant of our security concerns. And the entire people of Israel appreciate it, and I speak on their behalf. 内塔尼亚胡总理：奥巴马总统，谢谢您。感谢您对以色列的友谊，也感谢您对我的友谊。您是一位伟大的领袖——美利坚合众国的伟大领袖、世界的伟大领袖、以色列的伟大朋友，也是一位深切理解我们安全关切的人。全体以色列人民对此心怀感激，我代表他们表达这份谢意。
We met before, but this is the first time that we're meeting as President and Prime Minister. So I was particularly pleased at your reaffirmation of the special relationship between Israel and the United States. We share the same goals and we face the same threats. The common goal is peace. Everybody in Israel, as in the United States, wants peace. The common threat we face are terrorist regimes and organizations that seek to undermine the peace and endanger both our peoples. 我们此前曾会面，但这是我们首次以总统和总理的身份会晤。因此，我对您重申以色列与美国之间的特殊关系感到特别高兴。我们目标一致，面临同样的威胁。共同的目标是和平。以色列的每一个人，与美国一样，都渴望和平。我们面临的共同威胁是那些企图破坏和平、危及我们两国人民的恐怖主义政权和组织。
In this context, the worst danger we face is that Iran would develop nuclear military capabilities. Iran openly calls for our destruction, which is unacceptable by any standard. It threatens the moderate Arab regimes in the Middle East. It threatens U.S. interests worldwide. But if Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons, it could give a nuclear umbrella to terrorists, or worse, it could actually give terrorists nuclear weapons. And that would put us all in great peril. 在此背景下，我们面临的最严重危险是伊朗发展核军事能力。伊朗公然呼吁消灭我们，这以任何标准来看都是不可接受的。它威胁中东的温和阿拉伯政权，也威胁美国在全球的利益。而如果伊朗获得核武器，它可能为恐怖分子提供核保护伞，更糟糕的是，它甚至可能把核武器交给恐怖分子。那将使我们所有人都陷入巨大的危险。
So in that context, I very much appreciate, Mr. President, your firm commitment to ensure that Iran does not develop nuclear military capability, and also your statement that you're leaving all options on the table. 因此，在这一背景下，总统先生，我非常感谢您坚决承诺确保伊朗不发展核军事能力，也感谢您表示所有选项都摆在桌面上。
I share with you very much the desire to move the peace process forward. And I want to start peace negotiations with the Palestinians immediately. I would like to broaden the circle of peace to include others in the Arab world, if we could, Mr. President, so -- this (inaudible) that one shouldn't let go, maybe peace with the entire Arab world. 我与您一样非常希望推动和平进程向前发展。我希望立即启动与巴勒斯坦人的和平谈判。总统先生，如果可能的话，我希望将和平的圈子扩大到阿拉伯世界的其他国家——这是（听不清）不应放手的，也许是与整个阿拉伯世界的和平。
I want to make it clear that we don't want to govern the Palestinians. We want to live in peace with them. We want them to govern themselves, absent a handful of powers that could endanger the state of Israel. And for this there has to be a clear goal. The goal has to be an end to conflict. There will have to be compromises by Israelis and Palestinians alike. We're ready to do our share. We hope the Palestinians will do their share, as well. 我要明确指出：我们不想统治巴勒斯坦人。我们希望与他们和平共处。我们希望他们自治，但需排除少数可能危及以色列国的权力。为此，必须有一个明确的目标。这个目标必须是结束冲突。以色列人和巴勒斯坦人都必须做出妥协。我们已准备好承担我们的责任。我们希望巴勒斯坦人也将承担他们的责任。
If we resume negotiations, as we plan to do, then I think that the Palestinians will have to recognize Israel as a Jewish state; will have to also enable Israel to have the means to defend itself. And if those conditions are met, Israel's security conditions are met, and there's recognition of Israel's legitimacy, its permanent legitimacy, then I think we can envision an arrangement where Palestinians and Israelis live side by side in dignity, in security, and in peace. 如果我们按计划恢复谈判，那么我认为巴勒斯坦人必须承认以色列是犹太国家；同时也必须让以色列拥有自卫的手段。如果这些条件得到满足，以色列的安全条件得到满足，并且以色列的合法性——其永久合法性——得到承认，那么我认为我们可以设想这样一种安排：巴勒斯坦人和以色列人在尊严、安全与和平中比邻而居。
And I look forward, Mr. President, to working with you, a true friend of Israel, to the achievement of our common goals, which are security, prosperity, and above all, peace. 总统先生，我期待与您这位以色列真正的朋友合作，实现我们共同的目标——安全、繁荣，以及最重要的——和平。
President Obama: Thank you. We're going to take a couple of questions. We're going to start with Steve. 奥巴马总统：谢谢。我们将回答几个问题。我们先从史蒂夫开始。
Question: Mr. President, you spoke at length, as did the Prime Minister, about Iran's nuclear program. Your program of engagement, policy of engagement, how long is that going to last? Is there a deadline? 记者：总统先生，您和总理都详尽地谈到了伊朗的核项目。您的接触计划、接触政策，将会持续多久？是否有最后期限？
President Obama: You know, I don't want to set an artificial deadline. I think it's important to recognize that Iran is in the midst of its own elections. As I think all of you, since you're all political reporters, are familiar with, election time is not always the best time to get business done. 奥巴马总统：你知道，我不想设定一个人为的最后期限。我认为，重要的是要认识到伊朗正处于自己的大选进程中。我想你们都是政治记者，应该都熟悉，选举时期并不总是办正事的最佳时机。
Their elections will be completed in June, and we are hopeful that, at that point, there is going to be a serious process of engagement, first through the P5-plus-one process that's already in place, potentially through additional direct talks between the United States and Iran. 他们的大选将在6月完成。我们希望，到那时将启动一个严肃的接触进程，首先通过已经存在的"P5+1"机制，可能还会通过美国与伊朗之间额外的直接对话。
I want to reemphasize what I said earlier, that I believe it is not only in the interest of the international community that Iran not develop nuclear weapons, I firmly believe it is in Iran's interest not to develop nuclear weapons, because it would trigger a nuclear arms race in the Middle East and be profoundly destabilizing in all sorts of ways. Iran can achieve its interests of security and international respect and prosperity for its people through other means, and I am prepared to make what I believe will be a persuasive argument, that there should be a different course to be taken. 我想重申我先前讲过的话：我相信，伊朗不发展核武器不仅符合国际社会的利益，我也坚信这符合伊朗自身的利益，因为这将在中东引发核军备竞赛，并在各个方面造成深远的破坏性影响。伊朗可以通过其他途径实现其安全、国际尊重和本国人民繁荣的利益。我准备提出我相信会有说服力的论据，说明应当采取另一条道路。
The one thing we're also aware of is the fact that the history, of least, of negotiation with Iran is that there is a lot of talk but not always action and follow-through. And that's why it is important for us, I think, without having set an artificial deadline, to be mindful of the fact that we're not going to have talks forever. 我们也清楚的一点是，至少从历史上看，与伊朗的谈判往往是说得很多，但并不总是有行动和落实。因此我认为，对我们来说重要的是，在没有设定人为最后期限的同时，要意识到我们不可能永远谈下去。
We're not going to create a situation in which talks become an excuse for inaction while Iran proceeds with developing a nuclear -- and deploying a nuclear weapon. That's something, obviously, Israel is concerned about, but it's also an issue of concern for the United States and for the international community as a whole. 我们不会制造这样一种局面：让谈判成为不作为的借口，而伊朗却继续发展——并部署——核武器。这显然是以色列所关切的，但也是美国乃至整个国际社会所关切的问题。
My expectation would be that if we can begin discussions soon, shortly after the Iranian elections, we should have a fairly good sense by the end of the year as to whether they are moving in the right direction and whether the parties involved are making progress and that there's a good faith effort to resolve differences. That doesn't mean every issue would be resolved by that point, but it does mean that we'll probably be able to gauge and do a reassessment by the end of the year of this approach. 我的期望是，如果我们能在伊朗大选后不久就开始讨论，那么到今年年底，我们应该能相当清楚地判断他们是否正朝着正确方向前进，相关各方是否在取得进展，以及是否在以诚意努力解决分歧。这并不意味着到那时每个问题都会得到解决，但确实意味着到今年年底，我们大概能够对这一做法进行评估和重新审视。
Question: Thank you, Mr. President. Aren't you concerned that your outstretched hand has been interpreted by extremists, especially Ahmadinejad, Nasrallah, Meshal, as weakness? And since my colleague already asked about the deadline, if engagement fails, what then, Mr. President? 记者：谢谢您，总统先生。您是否担心您伸出的手被极端分子——特别是艾哈迈迪内贾德、纳斯鲁拉、马沙尔——解读为软弱？既然我的同事已经问过最后期限的问题，那么如果接触失败了，接下来怎么办，总统先生？
President Obama: Well, it's not clear to me why my outstretched hand would be interpreted as weakness. 奥巴马总统：嗯，我不太明白为什么我伸出的手会被解读为软弱。
Question: Qatar, an example. 记者：卡塔尔就是一个例子。
President Obama: I'm sorry? 奥巴马总统：对不起，你说什么？
Question: The example of Qatar. They would have preferred to be on your side and then moved to the extremists, to Iran. 记者：卡塔尔的例子。他们本想站在您这边，后来却转向了极端分子，转向了伊朗。
President Obama: Oh, I think -- yes, I'm not sure about that interpretation. Look, we've been in office a little over a hundred days now -- close to four months. We have put forward a clear principle that where we can resolve issues through negotiations and diplomacy, we should. We didn't expect -- and I don't think anybody in the international community or anybody in the Middle East, for that matter -- would expect that 30 years of antagonism and suspicion between Iran and the United States would be resolved in four months. So we think it's very important for us to give this a chance. 奥巴马总统：哦，我想——是的，我不太确定那种解读。听着，我们上台才一百多天——将近四个月。我们已经提出了一项明确的原则：凡能通过谈判和外交解决的问题，我们都应当去解决。我们并不期望——我也不认为国际社会的任何人，或中东地区的任何人——会期望伊朗和美国之间30年的对立与猜疑在四个月内得到化解。因此，我们认为给这件事一个机会非常重要。
Now, understand that part of the reason that it's so important for us to take a diplomatic approach is that the approach that we've been taking, which is no diplomacy, obviously has not worked. Nobody disagrees with that. Hamas and Hezbollah have gotten stronger. Iran has been pursuing its nuclear capabilities undiminished. And so not talking -- that clearly hasn't worked. That's what's been tried. And so what we're going to do is try something new, which is actually engaging and reaching out to the Iranians. 现在，要明白我们采取外交途径之所以如此重要，部分原因是我们一直采取的做法——即不外交——显然没有奏效。这一点没有人反对。哈马斯和真主党变得更强了。伊朗一直在不减弱地追求其核能力。因此，不对话——显然没有奏效。那正是过去尝试过的。所以我们要做的是尝试新的做法，即真正地与伊朗接触并主动伸出援手。
The important thing is to make sure that there is a clear timetable of -- at which point we say these talks don't seem to be making any serious progress. It hasn't been tried before so we don't want to prejudge that, but as I said, by the end of the year I think we should have some sense as to whether or not these discussions are starting to yield significant benefits, whether we're starting to see serious movement on the part of the Iranians. 重要的是要确保有一个明确的时间表——到了某个时点我们会说，这些对话似乎没有取得任何实质性进展。这是以前从未尝试过的，所以我们不想预作判断，但正如我所说，到今年年底，我认为我们应该能有所判断：这些讨论是否开始产生显著成效，我们是否开始看到伊朗方面有实质性的动作。
If that hasn't taken place, then I think the international community will see that it's not the United States or Israel or other countries that are seeking to isolate or victimize Iran; rather, it is Iran itself which is isolating itself by willing to -- being unwilling to engage in serious discussions about how they can preserve their security without threatening other people's security -- which ultimately is what we want to achieve. 如果到那时这种情况没有发生，那么我认为国际社会将会看到，不是美国、以色列或其他国家在试图孤立或加害伊朗；相反，是伊朗自己在孤立自己——因为它不愿参与严肃的讨论，讨论它如何能在不威胁他人安全的情况下维护自身安全——而这正是我们最终想要实现的目标。
We want to achieve a situation where all countries in the region can pursue economic development and commercial ties and trade and do so without the threat that their populations are going to be subject to bombs and destruction. 我们希望实现这样一种局面：该地区所有国家都能追求经济发展、商业联系和贸易，而且能够在不面临其人民遭受炸弹和毁灭威胁的情况下做到这一点。
That's what I think the Prime Minister is interested in, that's what I'm interested in, and I hope that ends up being what the ruling officials in Iran are interested in, as well. 我认为这正是总理所追求的，也是我所追求的，我希望这最终也是伊朗执政者所追求的。
Don Gonyea. Where's Gonyea? 唐·贡亚。贡亚在哪里？
Question: Right here. Thank you. Mr. President and Mr. Prime Minister, can you each react to King Abdullah's statement of a week ago that we really are at a critical place in the conflict and that if this moment isn't seized and if a peace isn't achieved now, soon, that in a year, year and a half, we could see renewed major conflict, perhaps war? And do you agree with that assessment? 记者：在这里。谢谢。总统先生、总理先生，能否请两位分别回应一下阿卜杜拉国王一周前的表态？他说我们确实正处于冲突的关键时刻，如果不抓住这一时刻，如果不尽快实现和平，那么在一年或一年半之后，我们可能看到新一轮的大规模冲突，甚至是战争。两位同意这一判断吗？
Prime Minister Netanyahu: I think we have to seize the moment and I think we're fortunate in having a leader like President Obama and a new government in Israel and perhaps a new understanding in the Arab world that I haven't seen in my lifetime. 内塔尼亚胡总理：我认为我们必须抓住这一时刻。我认为我们很幸运，有奥巴马总统这样的领导人，有以色列新政府，或许还有阿拉伯世界的一种新认识——这是我有生以来从未见过的。
And you're very kind to be calling me young, but I'm more than half a century old and in my 59 years in the life of the Jewish state, there's never been a time when Arabs and Israelis see a common threat the way we see it today and also see the need to join together in working towards peace while simultaneously defending ourselves against this common threat. 您很客气说我年轻，但我已经年过半百。在我59年的人生中，在犹太国存在的岁月里，阿拉伯人和以色列人从未像今天这样看待共同威胁，也从未像今天这样认识到需要携手为和平努力，同时共同防御这一威胁。
I think we have -- we have ways to capitalize on this sense of urgency and we're prepared to move with the President and with others in the Arab world if they're prepared to move, as well. 我认为我们有办法利用这种紧迫感，我们准备好与总统以及阿拉伯世界的其他国家一起推进——如果他们也准备好推进的话。
And I think the important thing that we discussed, among other things, is how to buttress the Israeli-Palestinian peace tracks, which we want to resume right away, with participation from others in the Arab world; how we give confidence to each other that would -- changes the reality, it changes the reality on the ground, changing political realities top-down, as well, while we work to broaden the circle of peace. 我认为我们讨论的要点之一是：如何在我们希望立即恢复的以色列-巴勒斯坦和平轨道上，借助阿拉伯世界其他国家的参与予以支撑；我们如何相互给予信心——这将改变现实，改变当地的现实，同时也自上而下地改变政治现实——同时我们努力扩大和平的圈子。
And I think that the sense of urgency that King Abdullah expressed is shared by me and shared by many others and I definitely know it's shared by President Obama. 我认为，阿卜杜拉国王所表达的紧迫感，我也有同感，许多其他人也有同感，而且我确切地知道奥巴马总统也有同感。
President Obama: Look, I think there's an extraordinary opportunity and the Prime Minister said it well. You have Arab states in the region -- the Jordanians, the Egyptians, the Saudis -- who I think are looking for an opportunity to break this long-standing impasse but aren't sure how to do it, and share concerns about Iran's potential development of a nuclear weapon. In order for us to potentially realign interests in the region in a constructive way, bolstering, to use the Prime Minister's word, the Palestinian-Israeli peace track is critical. 奥巴马总统：听着，我认为这是一个非凡的机遇，总理说得很对。该地区有阿拉伯国家——约旦、埃及、沙特——我认为他们都在寻找机会打破这一长期僵局，但不确定该如何做，并且都对伊朗可能发展核武器感到关切。为了让我们有可能以建设性方式重新调整该地区的利益格局，借用总理的话说，支撑巴以和平轨道至关重要。
It will not be easy. It never has been easy. In discussions, I don't think the Prime Minister would mind me saying to him -- or saying publically what I said privately, which is that there is a recognition that the Palestinians are going to have to do a better job providing the kinds of security assurances that Israelis would need to achieve a two-state solution; that, you know, the leadership of the Palestinians will have to gain additional legitimacy and credibility with their own people, and delivering services. 这不会容易。从来都不容易。在讨论中，我想总理不会介意我对他说的——或者说我公开讲出私下讲过的话——那就是，必须认识到巴勒斯坦人需要做得更好，提供以色列人实现两国方案所需要的那种安全保证；巴勒斯坦领导层必须从本民族人民那里获得更多的合法性和信誉，并交付服务。
And that's something that the United States and Israel can be helpful in seeing them accomplish. 在这方面，美国和以色列可以帮助他们实现。
The other Arab states have to be more supportive and be bolder in seeking potential normalization with Israel. And next week I will have the Palestinian Authority President Abbas as well as President Mubarak here and I will deliver that message to them. 其他阿拉伯国家必须更加支持，并且更勇敢地寻求与以色列关系正常化的可能性。下周我将在此接待巴勒斯坦权力机构主席阿巴斯以及穆巴拉克总统，我将向他们传达这一信息。
Now, Israel is going to have to take some difficult steps as well, and I shared with the Prime Minister the fact that under the roadmap and under Annapolis that there's a clear understanding that we have to make progress on settlements. Settlements have to be stopped in order for us to move forward. That's a difficult issue. I recognize that, but it's an important one and it has to be addressed. 现在，以色列也将不得不采取一些艰难的步骤。我向总理讲明，根据路线图和安纳波利斯协议，我们有一项明确共识：必须在定居点问题上取得进展。定居点必须停止，我们才能向前推进。这是一个艰难的问题。我理解这一点，但这是一个重要问题，必须加以解决。
I think the humanitarian situation in Gaza has to be addressed. Now, I was along the border in Sderot and saw the evidence of weapons that had been raining down on the heads of innocents in those Israeli cities, and that's unacceptable. So we've got to work with the Egyptians to deal with the smuggling of weapons and it has to be meaningful because no Prime Minister of any country is going to tolerate missiles raining down on their citizens' heads. 我认为加沙的人道主义局势必须得到解决。我曾到过斯代罗特边境，看到了武器如雨般落在那些以色列城市无辜居民头上的证据，这是不可接受的。因此，我们必须与埃及合作，处理武器走私问题，而且必须有实质成效，因为没有任何一位总理会容忍导弹如雨般落在本国公民的头上。
On the other hand, the fact is, is that if the people of Gaza have no hope, if they can't even get clean water at this point, if the border closures are so tight that it is impossible for reconstruction and humanitarian efforts to take place, then that is not going to be a recipe for Israel's long-term security or a constructive peace track to move forward. 另一方面，事实是：如果加沙人民没有希望，如果他们此刻连干净水都得不到，如果边境封锁如此之严，使重建和人道主义工作都无法进行，那么这就不会成为以色列长期安全的良方，也不会成为建设性和平轨道向前推进的良方。
So all these things are going to have to come together and it's going to be difficult, but the one thing that I've committed to the Prime Minister is we are going to be engaged, the United States is going to roll up our sleeves. We want to be a strong partner in this process. 因此，所有这些事情都必须汇聚起来，这会很困难，但我向总理承诺的一件事是：我们将投入其中，美国会卷起袖子干。我们希望成为这一过程中强有力的伙伴。
I have great confidence in Prime Minister Netanyahu's political skills, but also his historical vision and his recognition that during the years that he is Prime Minister this second go-around, he is probably going to be confronted with as many important decisions about the long-term strategic interests of Israel as any Prime Minister that we've seen in a very long time. And I have great confidence that he's going to rise to the occasion and I actually think that you're going to see movement in -- among Arab states that we have not seen before. 我对内塔尼亚胡总理的政治手腕深具信心，同时也对他历史性的远见、以及他认识到在自己第二任总理任期内，他将面临关于以色列长期战略利益的重大决定——其数量之多，可能是我们很长时间以来所见到的任何一位总理都无法比拟的——这一点我也深具信心。我深信他会挺身而出，而且我实际上认为，你们将会在阿拉伯国家中看到我们前所未见的动作。
But the trick is to try to coordinate all this in a very delicate political environment. 但关键在于，要在非常微妙的政治环境中协调好这一切。
And that's why I'm so pleased to have George Mitchell, who is standing behind the scrum there, as our special envoy, because I'm very confident that as somebody who was involved in equally delicate negotiations in Northern Ireland, he is somebody who recognizes that if you apply patience and determination, and you keep your eye on the long-term goal, as the Prime Minister articulated -- which is a wide-ranging peace, not a grudging peace, not a transitory peace, but a wide-ranging, regional peace -- that we can make great progress. 这正是为什么我如此高兴能有乔治·米切尔——他正站在那群记者后面——担任我们的特使。因为我非常有信心，作为一个曾参与过北爱同样微妙谈判的人，他认识到：如果施加耐心和决心，并紧盯长远目标——正如总理所阐述的，这是一种广泛的和平，不是勉强的和平，不是过渡性的和平，而是广泛的、地区性的和平——我们就能取得巨大进展。
Question: Mr. President, the Israeli Prime Minister and the Israeli administration have said on many occasions -- on some occasions that only if the Iranian threat will be solved, they can achieve real progress on the Palestinian threat. Do you agree with that kind of linkage? 记者：总统先生，以色列总理和以色列政府曾不止一次地表示——在某些场合说过——只有解决伊朗威胁，才能在巴勒斯坦问题上取得真正进展。您是否同意这种关联？
And to the Israeli Prime Minister, you were speaking about the political track. Are you willing to get into final status issues/negotiations like borders, like Jerusalem in the near future, based on the two-state solution? And do you still hold this opinion about the linkage between the Iranian threat and your ability to achieve any progress on the Palestinian threat? 请问以色列总理，您刚才谈到政治轨道。基于两国方案，您是否愿意在不久的将来进入最终地位问题/谈判，比如边界问题，比如耶路撒冷问题？您是否仍然坚持伊朗威胁与您在巴勒斯坦威胁上能否取得进展之间的关联？
President Obama: Well, let me say this. There's no doubt that it is difficult for any Israeli government to negotiate in a situation in which they feel under immediate threat. That's not conducive to negotiations. And as I've said before, I recognize Israel's legitimate concerns about the possibility of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon when they have a president who has in the past said that Israel should not exist. That would give any leader of any country pause. 奥巴马总统：嗯，我这样说吧。毫无疑问，任何以色列政府在这种感到直接受到威胁的情况下进行谈判都是困难的。这不利于谈判。正如我之前所说，我理解以色列对伊朗获得核武器的可能性的合理关切，特别是当他们有一位过去曾表示以色列不应存在的总统。这会让任何国家的任何领导人停下脚步。
Having said that, if there is a linkage between Iran and the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, I personally believe it actually runs the other way. To the extent that we can make peace with the Palestinians -- between the Palestinians and the Israelis, then I actually think it strengthens our hand in the international community in dealing with a potential Iranian threat. 话虽如此，如果伊朗问题与以巴和平进程之间有关联，我个人认为其实际方向恰恰相反。在巴勒斯坦人和以色列人之间达成和平，到这种程度，我实际上认为它反而会加强我们在国际社会中应对潜在伊朗威胁时的筹码。
Having said that, I think that dealing with Iran's potential nuclear capacity is something that we should be doing even if there already was peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. And I think that pursuing Israeli-Palestinian peace is something that is in Israeli's security interests and the United States' national security interests, even if Iran was not pursuing a nuclear weapon. They're both important. 话虽如此，我认为应对伊朗的潜在核能力是我们应当做的事，即使以色列人和巴勒斯坦人之间已经实现和平。同样，推动以巴和平也符合以色列的安全利益和美国的国家安全利益，即使伊朗不追求核武器。两者都重要。
And we have to move aggressively on both fronts. And I think that based on my conversations with Prime Minister Netanyahu, he agrees with me that they're both important. That's not to say that he's not making a calculation, as he should, about what are some of the most immediate threats to Israeli's security, and I understand that. 我们必须在两条战线上都积极行动。而且我认为，根据我与内塔尼亚胡总理的对话，他同意我的看法——两者都重要。这并不是说他没有像他应当做的那样，对以色列安全所面临的最紧迫威胁进行权衡，这一点我理解。
But, look, imagine how much less mischief a Hezbollah or a Hamas could do if in fact we had moved a Palestinian-Israeli track in a direction that gave the Palestinian people hope. And if Hezbollah and Hamas is weakened, imagine how that impacts Iran's ability to make mischief, and vice versa. 但是，请想一想：如果我们已经将以巴轨道朝着给巴勒斯坦人民带来希望的方向推进，真主党或哈马斯所能造成的危害会少多少。而如果真主党和哈马斯被削弱，想象一下这会如何影响伊朗制造祸端的能力，反之亦然。
I mean, so obviously these things are related, but they are important separately. And I'm confident that the United States, working with Israel, can make progress on both fronts. 我的意思是，所以这些事情显然是相关的，但它们各自都很重要。我有信心，美国与以色列合作，能在两条战线上都取得进展。
Question: Thank you. 记者：谢谢。
Prime Minister Netanyahu: We've had extraordinarily friendly and constructive talks here today, and I'm very grateful to the President for that. We want to move peace forward, and we want to ward off the great threats. 内塔尼亚胡总理：我们今天在此进行了非常友好、建设性的会谈，我对此非常感谢总统。我们希望推动和平向前发展，也希望抵御重大威胁。
There isn't a policy linkage, and that's what I hear the President saying, and that's what I'm saying too. And I've always said there's not a policy linkage between pursuing simultaneously peace between Israel and the Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world, and to trying to deal with removing the threat of a nuclear bomb. 并不存在政策上的关联，这就是我听到总统所说的，也是我所说的。我一直讲，在同时追求以色列与巴勒斯坦人及阿拉伯世界其他国家的和平、以及设法消除核弹威胁之间，并不存在政策上的关联。
There are causal links. The President talked about one of them. It would help, obviously, unite a broad front against Iran if we had peace between Israel and the Palestinians. And conversely, if Iran went nuclear, it would threaten the progress towards peace and destabilize the entire area, and threaten existing peace agreement. 但存在因果关系。总统谈到其中之一。如果我们能在以色列和巴勒斯坦人之间实现和平，显然有助于团结起一条反对伊朗的广泛阵线。反过来说，如果伊朗拥核，将威胁和平进程，破坏整个地区的稳定，并威胁现有的和平协议。
So it's very clear to us. I think we actually -- we don't see closely on it, we see exactly eye to eye on this -- that we want to move simultaneously and then parallel on two fronts: the front of peace, and the front of preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear capability. 所以这对我们来说非常清楚。我想我们实际上——我们不是看法相近，而是完全一致——我们要在两条战线上同时并平行推进：和平的战线，以及阻止伊朗获得核能力的战线。
On the front of peace, the important thing for me is to resume negotiations as rapidly as possible, and to -- and my view is less one of terminology, but one of substance. And I ask myself, what do we end up with? If we end up with another Gaza -- the President has described to you there's rockets falling out of Gaza -- that is something we don't want to happen, because a terror base next to our cities that doesn't call -- recognize Israel's existence and calls for our destruction and asks for our destruction is not arguing peace. 在和平战线上，对我来说重要的是尽快恢复谈判——我的看法不重在术语，而重在实质。我问自己，我们最终会得到什么？如果我们最终得到的是另一个加沙——总统已经向你们描述过加沙有火箭弹落下——那是我们不希望发生的事，因为在我们城市旁边有一个恐怖基地，它不承认——它不承认以色列的存在，反而呼吁消灭我们、要求消灭我们——这不是在和谈。
If, however, the Palestinians recognize Israel as the Jewish state, if they -- if they fight terror, if they educate their children for peace and to a better future, then I think we can come at a substantive solution that allows the two people to live side by side in security and peace and I add prosperity, because I'm a great believer in this. 然而，如果巴勒斯坦人承认以色列是犹太国家，如果他们——如果他们打击恐怖主义，如果他们教育子女追求和平和更美好的未来，那么我认为我们就能达成一个实质性的解决方案，让两个民族在安全与和平中比邻而居——我还要加上繁荣，因为我对此深信不疑。
So I think the terminology will take care of itself if we have the substantive understanding. And I think we can move forward on this. I have great confidence in your leadership, Mr. President, and in your friendship to my country, and in your championing of peace and security. And the answer is, both come together -- peace and security are intertwined. They're inseparable. 因此我认为，如果我们达成了实质性理解，术语问题会自行解决。我认为我们可以在这方面向前推进。总统先生，我对您的领导力、对您对我国友谊、对您对和平与安全的捍卫，深具信心。答案是：两者是相伴相生的——和平与安全相互交织。它们不可分割。
And I look forward, Mr. President, to working with you to achieve both. 总统先生，我期待与您合作，共同实现这两个目标。
President Obama: Thank you, everybody. 奥巴马总统：谢谢大家。