Tech Sergeant Nathaniel Parry [Moderator]: Well, thank you, Mr. President, for joining us here at the Defense Media Activity. It is very exciting for us to have you here for a face-to-face conversation with U.S. service members. We’re very, very pleased to have you. 主持人 纳撒尼尔·帕里技术中士：感谢总统先生莅临国防媒体活动中心。能邀请您与美军官兵面对面交流，我们感到非常荣幸和激动。
President Obama: Well, Nathan, thank you so much for your participation. I want to thank everybody who’s here in Fort Meade. There are a couple of people I want to acknowledge. 奥巴马总统：内森，非常感谢你的主持。我要感谢米德堡的每一位同仁。我想先向几位人士致意。
First of all, your Garrison Commander, Colonel Brian Foley. Where is he? I just rode over with him. There he is. He’s in charge of a lot of stuff. I was -- with everything that’s going on out of this incredible facility. Obviously we can’t succeed in our missions without a strong support from Congress, and we’ve got a congressman here who works very hard on behalf of our military and our intelligence -- Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger. Where’s Dutch? There he is. Thank you so much, Dutch. 首先是你们的驻军指挥官布莱恩·福利上校。他在哪里？我刚和他一起乘车过来的。他在那里。他掌管着很多事务。我想说的是——这座了不起的设施里正在发生的一切。显然，没有国会的大力支持，我们的任务就无法取得成功。今天到场的还有一位国会议员，他为我们的军队和情报事业付出了巨大努力——荷兰·鲁珀斯伯格议员。荷兰在哪里？在那里。非常感谢你，荷兰。
I’m going to be very brief at the front, because I want to mainly take questions from folks not just here but all around the world. Today is a solemn day. I started my day commemorating 9/11 and all the people who were killed on that day. And I’ve had an opportunity as President to meet with many of the survivors, the family members of those who were killed. And on this particular day, we are constantly reminded of their loss. We want to let them know that we do not forget those who are fallen. 我在开场会尽量简短，因为我主要想接受来自这里以及世界各地官兵的提问。今天是一个庄严的日子。我以纪念9·11事件以及在那一天遇难的所有人开启了这一天。作为总统，我有机会会见了许多幸存者以及遇难者家属。在这个特别的日子里，我们不断想起他们的逝去。我们想让他们知道，我们不会忘记那些牺牲的人。
We are inspired by the survivors, many of whom still have the scars, both seen and unseen, of that terrible, terrible day. And it’s also a good time to remember all the people who have served and sacrificed since 9/11 in order to keep America safe and free. 幸存者们激励着我们，他们中许多人至今仍带着那可怕一天留下的伤疤——有形的和无形的。同时，这也是缅怀9·11以来为维护美国的安全与自由而服役和牺牲的所有人的时刻。
We have veterans now from every state in the union who have served oftentimes in multiple tours, both in Iraq and Afghanistan. And although we have made enormous strides in degrading the core al Qaeda, including bin Laden himself that had helped to direct the plot on 9/11, we are well aware of the fact that those threats still exist out there. 如今，我们的退伍军人来自全美每一个州，他们往往多次被派驻伊拉克和阿富汗执行任务。尽管我们在瓦解基地组织核心力量方面取得了巨大进展，包括击毙了曾参与策划9·11袭击的本·拉登本人，但我们清楚地知道，这些威胁依然存在。
And here at Fort Meade, we do some of the most important work in helping to coordinate our efforts to make sure that we are bringing to bear all elements of American power against those who would try to do us harm here in the homeland or overseas, or would threaten our allies. Despite the progress we’ve made in Afghanistan, it’s still critically important that we’ve got thousands of trainers and advisors who are supporting the Afghan military efforts there. Our combat role is complete, but we still have to make sure that they are getting the kind of help and assistance that they need. 在米德堡，我们开展着一些最重要的工作，帮助协调各方力量，确保我们动用美国力量的一切要素，打击那些企图在本土或海外伤害我们、或威胁我们盟友的人。尽管我们在阿富汗取得了进展，但仍有数千名训练人员和顾问在那里支持阿富汗军队的行动，这仍然至关重要。我们的作战任务已经完成，但我们仍需确保他们获得所需的帮助和支持。
The emergence of ISIL in Iraq and Syria has meant that we have to be present and we are pounding them every single day. Our airmen are doing extraordinary work with the support of all the other service branches. And we’re providing training and assistance and support to the Iraqi security forces on the ground as they continue to push back ISIL from territory that they had taken. ISIL在伊拉克和叙利亚的崛起意味着我们必须保持存在，我们每天都在猛烈打击他们。我们的空军人员在其他所有军种的支持下，表现非常出色。我们正在为地面上的伊拉克安全部队提供训练、援助和支持，帮助他们继续从ISIL手中收复失地。
But both in Iraq and in Syria, in Afghanistan, in North Africa, what we’re very clear about is, is that we still have significant threats coming from terrorist organizations and a terrorist ideology. We also have the traditional threats that our military has to be prepared for -- from a new Pacific region where historically we have underwritten the security and prosperity of a region that came back after World War II and where we have tremendous alliances, to Europe and our role as the cornerstone of NATO. 但无论是在伊拉克、叙利亚、阿富汗还是北非，我们非常清楚的是，来自恐怖组织和恐怖主义意识形态的重大威胁依然存在。我们的军队还必须为传统威胁做好准备——从新的太平洋地区（二战后该地区实现了复苏，我们在历史上为该地区的安全与繁荣提供了保障，并拥有强大的盟友关系）到欧洲（我们作为北约基石的角色）。
And so we are going to continually have to work at every level to make sure that our men and women in uniform are provided the strategy they need to succeed, the resources they need to succeed, the equipment, the training. And in this new era, that’s not just a matter of tanks and rifles; as everybody I think here is aware, especially here at Fort Meade, cybersecurity is opening up a whole new era in which we have to watch out for our adversaries. 因此，我们将继续在各个层面努力，确保我们的男女军人获得取得成功所需的战略、资源、装备和训练。在这个新时代，这不仅仅是坦克和步枪的问题；我想在座各位都明白，尤其是在米德堡，网络安全正在开启一个全新的时代，我们必须警惕我们的对手。
So on 9/11, I thought it was particularly appropriate for me to be able to address you directly, and to say thank you on behalf of the American people. When I look out in this audience and when I think about all the members of the armed services all around the world who serve, this represents America. You’ve got people of every race, religion, faith, every region of the country. 所以在9·11这一天，我认为能够直接向你们发表讲话，并代表美国人民向你们表示感谢，是特别恰当的。当我看着台下的听众，当我想到世界各地所有服役的军人时，你们代表了美国。你们来自不同的种族、宗教、信仰，来自全国各个地区。
But what we share is a common creed, a common commitment to freedom, a common commitment to rule of law, a common belief that America is an indispensable force for good around the world, and that our military is a linchpin in our ability to project our values alongside our diplomatic efforts, our economy, and the people-to-people relations that helped to spread those core beliefs that all of you are willing to sacrifice for. 但我们共同拥有一个信念，一个对自由的共同承诺，一个对法治的共同承诺，我们共同相信，美国是全世界一支不可或缺的正义力量，而我们的军队是我们传播价值观的关键——连同我们的外交努力、我们的经济，以及帮助传播这些核心信念的民间交流，而你们所有人都愿意为这些信念牺牲。
So I want to say thank you to you. I want to especially say thank you to those who are serving overseas and who are watching here today because many of them are away from family right now. We are grateful for your service. I don’t have a greater honor than serving as your Commander-in-Chief. And every single day I see the extraordinary work that you do and I benefit from it as well. 我要感谢你们。我要特别感谢那些在海外服役、今天正在观看的人，因为他们中许多人此刻正远离家人。我们感激你们的服务。担任你们的总司令，是我最大的荣幸。每一天，我都看到你们所做的非凡工作，我也从中受益。
So with that, why don’t we start taking some questions? 那么，我们开始提问吧？
Moderator Parry: Yes, of course, sir. As you mentioned, we do have family members and service members worldwide watching this worldwide troop talk through American Forces Network and on ships at sea. We’re going to go out there in a little bit, but the first question we do want to be represented from one of the many service members we have here. So the first question will go out to the audience if someone has one ready. 帕里主持人：好的，总统先生。正如您所说，全球各地的军人家属和官兵都在通过美国军方网络以及海上舰艇观看这场全球官兵对话会。我们稍后会连线海外，但第一个问题我们想请在座的一名官兵提出。那么，第一个问题交给现场观众，如果有人准备好了的话。
Sergeant Harvey. 哈维中士。
Sergeant Harvey: Good morning, Mr. President -- good afternoon. 哈维中士：总统先生，早上好——下午好。
President Obama: Good afternoon. 奥巴马总统：下午好。
Sergeant Harvey: I’m Sergeant Brianna Harvey [ph]. I’m from Texas. And my question is, what made you initiate MBK on the 27th of February in 2014? And will you create something similar for females? And what will you miss the most once you’re no longer President and out of the Oval Office? 哈维中士：我是布丽安娜·哈维中士。我来自得克萨斯州。我的问题是，是什么促使您在2014年2月27日发起"我的兄弟守护者"（MBK）计划？您会为女性设立类似的项目吗？还有，等您不再担任总统、离开白宫之后，您最怀念的会是什么？
President Obama: Well, those are great questions. What part of Texas you from? 奥巴马总统：这些问题问得很好。你来自得克萨斯州的哪个地方？
Sergeant Harvey: Harker Heights, Texas. 哈维中士：哈克海茨，得克萨斯州。
President Obama: Harker Heights, Texas. 奥巴马总统：哈克海茨，得州。
Sergeant Harvey: Yes, Mr. President. 哈维中士：是的，总统先生。
President Obama: Well, tell everybody back home I said hi. 奥巴马总统：好的，代我向家乡的父老乡亲问好。
Sergeant Harvey: Yes, sir. 哈维中士：好的，长官。
President Obama: For service members who aren’t aware, what we’re referring to when we talk about MBK is what we call My Brother’s Keeper. One of the most important principles I think of America is that no matter who you are, no matter what you look like, if you work hard, you can get ahead. And there are pockets of poverty in places where people don’t have an opportunity, and that’s particularly true among young men who too often are ending up in prison instead of going to school or serving in our military. 奥巴马总统：对于不了解的官兵，我解释一下，MBK就是我们所说的"我的兄弟守护者"计划。我认为美国最重要的原则之一是，无论你是谁、长什么样，只要你努力工作，你就能出人头地。但在一些贫困地区，人们没有机会，尤其是年轻男性，他们往往最终身陷囹圄，而不是去上学或在军队服役。
And so what we’ve been trying to do is to setup mentorship programs, make sure that they’re aware of what’s going on, provide them with job training. I had a meeting with some folks in New Orleans -- young men who just come from terrible circumstances, terrible neighborhoods -- and we want to make sure that they are aware of how they can break the cycle and do right by themselves and ultimately do right by their families. 因此，我们一直在努力建立导师计划，确保他们了解情况，为他们提供职业培训。我在新奥尔良会见了一些年轻人——他们来自极其恶劣的环境和社区——我们希望确保他们知道如何打破这个循环，善待自己，最终善待家人。
And one of the young men who was sitting next to me was interested in enrolling in the Marines, but he was worried that he had heard a rumor that he might not be able to serve in the Marines if he had tattoos. I said, I don’t think -- I’ve met a lot of Marines, I don’t think that’s going to be a problem. 当时坐在我旁边的一个年轻人想报名参加海军陆战队，但他担心自己听到了一个传言，说有纹身可能就不能在海军陆战队服役。我说，我觉得不会——我见过很多海军陆战队员，我觉得这不是问题。
But it gives you a sense of some young people are so out of the loop and have so little exposure that they don’t know where to go and how to apply themselves in ways that allow them to succeed. So we are working diligently on that -- not just ourselves, but businesses and our military leaders are helping out on this issue. 但这让你意识到，有些年轻人与社会脱节太深、接触面太窄，他们不知道该去哪里、该如何努力才能成功。所以我们正在这方面努力——不仅是我们自己，企业界和军方领导人也在帮助解决这个问题。
Young women, we have a whole other set of initiatives in the White House called -- we have a White House Council on Women and Girls to provide opportunity for them as well. I have to say, generally, the young women are doing better than the young men -- that’s because you guys are a little smarter, but obviously they need opportunities as well. 至于年轻女性，我们在白宫有一整套其他举措——我们设有白宫妇女与女童委员会，也为她们提供机会。我得说，总体而言，年轻女性的表现比年轻男性要好——这是因为你们更聪明一点，但显然她们也需要机会。
In terms of what I’m going to miss the most, I meant what I said: The greatest privilege I have is serving as your Commander-in-Chief. When I travel around the world, every place I go, I see folks who are doing incredible work. And it’s not typically fighting. A lot of times it’s helping train other countries so that they can secure themselves. A lot of times it’s helping on engineering projects or development projects or helping people after a natural disaster. 说到我最怀念什么，我是认真的：我最大的荣幸就是担任你们的总司令。当我走遍世界，每到一处，我都看到人们在做着非凡的工作。而且通常不是在打仗。很多时候是帮助训练其他国家，让他们能够保护自己。很多时候是协助工程项目或发展项目，或者在自然灾害后帮助人们。
You are ambassadors and spread good will around the world every single day at enormous sacrifice to yourselves. And so I’ll miss that a lot. 你们每天都是大使，在世界各地传播善意，做出了巨大的个人牺牲。所以我会非常怀念这一点。
The plane is nice, too -- I got to admit, but my lease is running out. So I’m hoping that I’m not going to have to start taking off my shoes again going through security. 当然，那架飞机也很棒——我得承认，但我的租约快到期了。所以我希望以后过安检的时候不用再脱鞋了。
What I won’t miss is the fact that I can -- I live in what’s called the bubble, right, so they don’t let me go anywhere. So if I just want to go take a walk, I’ve got to have helicopters and boats and all that stuff. And even when I cross the Potomac, they’ve got everybody in position. And I can’t just on a Saturday morning go down to Starbucks or something, not shave. It sounds pretty good to me. So those are some of the things I’ll be doing when I get out of here. And I probably won’t wear a tie for at least a month. 我不会怀念的是，我生活在所谓的"气泡"里，对吧，他们不让我随便出门。所以如果我只是想散个步，我就得动用直升机、快艇之类的。即使我渡过波托马克河，他们也得全员就位。我不能在周六早上不刮胡子就去星巴克什么的。听起来还挺不错的。这些就是我卸任后要做的事。可能至少一个月不打领带。
Thank you very much. 非常感谢。
Sergeant Harvey: Thank you, Mr. President. 哈维中士：谢谢您，总统先生。
Moderator Parry: Thank you, Sergeant Harvey for that question. I promised we were going to go worldwide, sir, and we are. Your first question from overseas is a place that you are familiar with, you’ve traveled there a few times and I’m sure our service members are familiar with it as well. Our first question is going to come from downrange. And Petty Officer Lori Bent is going to take us there. 帕里主持人：谢谢哈维中士的提问。先生，我之前承诺过要连线全球，现在我们就来连线。您的第一个海外问题来自一个您熟悉的地方，您去过几次，我相信我们的官兵也很熟悉。我们的第一个问题将来自前线。劳里·本特准尉将带我们连线。
Petty Officer Laurie Bent [Moderator]: Mr. President, we have your first live satellite question from Afghanistan. We have Sergeant Aaron Giese. Sergeant Giese, if you can hear me, go ahead and nod. You are on the line with the President. Go ahead with your question. 劳里·本特准尉主持人：总统先生，我们的第一个卫星直播问题来自阿富汗。提问的是亚伦·吉斯中士。吉斯中士，如果能听到我说话，请点一下头。您正在与总统通话。请提出您的问题。
Sergeant Giese: Good afternoon, Mr. President. My name is Sergeant Aaron Giese, and I first want to take time to thank you for the opportunity to speak with me today. 吉斯中士：总统先生，下午好。我是亚伦·吉斯中士，首先，我想感谢您给我今天与您对话的机会。
President Obama: Thank you, Aaron. 奥巴马总统：谢谢你，亚伦。
Sergeant Giese: My question for you is, due to the recent Russian activity in Syria and the possibility of future activity, how will that affect our current military strategy within the region? 吉斯中士：我的问题是，鉴于俄罗斯最近在叙利亚的活动以及未来可能的行动，这将如何影响我们目前在该地区的军事战略？
President Obama: Well, it's a great question, Aaron. First of all, let me just say thank you for your service, and please tell everybody in your unit that we appreciate them as well, that we're thinking about them and you're in our thoughts and prayers. 奥巴马总统：亚伦，这是一个很好的问题。首先，感谢你的服役，请代我向你所在部队的所有人问好，告诉他们我们很感激他们，我们想念他们，为他们祈祷。
As I indicated in my opening remarks, we've done an incredible job in going after and systematically dismantling the core al Qaeda network that was operating primarily in the FATA region between Afghanistan and Pakistan. They still pose a threat, but it is much diminished. But what’s happened with this radical, violent extremism is that it's metastasized and it's spread to other areas. And right now, ground zero for those activities is in Syria with ISIL. 正如我在开场白中所说，我们在追击和系统瓦解主要在阿富汗和巴基斯坦之间的联邦直辖部落地区活动的基地组织核心网络方面，取得了令人瞩目的成果。他们仍然构成威胁，但威胁已大大减弱。但这种激进的暴力极端主义已经转移扩散，蔓延到了其他地区。目前，这些活动的中心地带在叙利亚，就是ISIL。
And our strategy has consistently been that we will use our airpower to support efforts by Iraqi security forces on the ground and, where we can find it, moderate opposition inside of Syria to push back on ISIL -- to put pressure on them, to go after their financing, to go after their networks, their supplies. A lot of their operations are funded by oil sales, and so blocking those, going after the infrastructure that they’ve built up. 我们的战略始终是，利用我们的空中力量支持伊拉克安全部队在地面的行动，并在可能的情况下，支持叙利亚境内的温和反对派反击ISIL——对其施加压力，打击其资金来源，摧毁其网络和补给。他们的很多行动靠石油销售提供资金，所以我们要阻断这些销售，摧毁他们建立起来的基础设施。
Those strategies will all continue. The challenge we've had in Syria is that the President there, Bashar al-Assad, has been so destructive towards his own people, destroying entire cities, dropping bombs, creating a sectarian conflict between Shia and Sunni inside of Syria, that it has become a magnet for jihadists throughout the region. 这些战略都将继续。我们在叙利亚面临的挑战是，那里的总统巴沙尔·阿萨德对自己的人民造成了巨大的破坏，摧毁了整座城市，投掷炸弹，在叙利亚境内制造了什叶派和逊尼派之间的宗派冲突，这使叙利亚成为了整个地区圣战分子的磁石。
And the good news is, is that Russia shares with us a concern about countering violent extremism and shares with us the view that ISIL is very dangerous. So despite our conflicts with Russia in areas like Ukraine, this is an area potentially of converging interest. 好消息是，俄罗斯和我们一样，也对打击暴力极端主义感到关切，也认为ISIL非常危险。因此，尽管我们在乌克兰等问题上与俄罗斯存在分歧，但在这个领域我们的利益可能趋于一致。
The bad news is that Russia continues to believe that Assad, who is their traditional partner, is somebody that is worthy of continuing support. And it has been my view and the view of the United States government that as long as Assad is there, he has alienated so much of the Syrian population that it will not be possible to arrive at a peaceful cease-fire and political settlement, and you’ll continue to have this vacuum that's filled by extremists. 坏消息是，俄罗斯仍然认为阿萨德——他们的传统伙伴——是值得继续支持的。而我和美国政府的看法一直是，只要阿萨德在位，他就已经疏远了叙利亚民众中的大多数，因此不可能实现和平停火和政治解决，而这个由极端分子填补的真空将继续存在。
So Russia has, for many years now, provided financial support, sold arms to Assad. I remember a conversation I had with Mr. Putin four or five years ago, where I told him that was a mistake, it would make things worse as long as he continued to support Assad. He did not take my warnings, and as a consequence things have gotten worse. 俄罗斯多年来一直在向阿萨德提供财政支持，出售武器。我记得四五年前我和普京先生有过一次对话，我告诉他这是一个错误，只要他继续支持阿萨德，局势就会恶化。他没有听取我的警告，结果局势变得更糟了。
It appears now that Assad is worried enough that he’s inviting Russian advisors in and Russian equipment in. And that won't change our core strategy, which is to continue to put pressure on ISIL in Iraq and Syria 现在看来，阿萨德已经感到足够担忧，开始邀请俄罗斯顾问和装备进入叙利亚。这不会改变我们的核心战略，即继续在伊拉克和叙利亚向ISIL施压
, but we are going to be engaging Russia to let them know that you can't continue to double-down on a strategy that’s doomed to failure. And if they are willing to work with us and the 60-nation coalition that we've put together, then there’s the possibility of a political settlement in which Assad would be transitioned out and a new coalition of moderate, secular and inclusive forces could come together and restore order in the country. ，但我们将与俄罗斯接触，让他们知道，不能继续在一个注定失败的战略上加倍下注。如果他们愿意与我们以及我们组建的60国联盟合作，那么就有可能达成政治解决方案，让阿萨德逐步退出，由温和、世俗和包容的新力量联合起来，恢复该国的秩序。
That's our goal. This is going to be a long discussion that we'll be having with the Russians, but it is not going to prevent us from continuing to go after ISIL very hard. It could prevent us from arriving at the political settlement that ultimately is needed to bring a peace back to Syria. And this is where our military efforts have to be combined with effective diplomatic efforts. 这是我们的目标。我们将与俄罗斯进行长期讨论，但这不会阻止我们继续大力打击ISIL。它可能会阻碍我们达成最终为叙利亚带来和平所需的政治解决方案。这就是为什么我们的军事努力必须与有效的外交努力相结合。
One of the things that I've said to all of our men and women in uniform is that you shouldn’t be fighting for our security and our freedom alone; you’ve got to have the support of diplomats and intelligence experts and others, because although you are vital and necessary, if you're doing it by yourselves, we can win any battle, but our main challenge right now in a lot of these countries 我对所有男女军人说过的一点是，你们不应该独自为我们的安全和自由而战；你们需要外交官、情报专家和其他人的支持，因为尽管你们至关重要、不可或缺，但如果只有你们单打独斗，我们可以赢得任何战斗，但我们目前在许多国家
-- like Syria and Afghanistan and Libya and North Africa -- is disorder. And the only way you restore order -- unless you're occupying every country that starts breaking down -- is through political negotiations and settlement. ——比如叙利亚、阿富汗、利比亚和北非——面临的主要挑战是混乱。而恢复秩序的唯一途径——除非你占领每一个开始崩溃的国家——是通过政治谈判和解决。
And that's where the Russians are going to have to start getting a little smarter than they have been. Because they are threatened in many ways more than we are by ISIL. They’ve got large Muslim populations that historically have caused a lot of problems inside of Russia. And the strategy that they’re pursuing right now of doubling down on Assad I think is a big mistake. 这就是俄罗斯需要开始变得比以前更明智的地方。因为他们受到ISIL的威胁在很多方面比我们更大。他们有大量的穆斯林人口，历史上在俄罗斯境内造成过很多问题。我认为，他们目前这种加倍支持阿萨德的战略是一个巨大的错误。
Moderator Parry: Thank you, Sergeant Giese, for that question from Afghanistan. We here at the Defense Media Activity do hope that you and others downrange do stay safe. We do have thousands of members overseas watching the American Forces network, or they’re streaming live on Defense.gov, and they, too, are eager to talk to you, Mr. President. And they can through social media. In fact, Petty Officer Lori Bent is going to take us out there now. 帕里主持人：谢谢吉斯中士从阿富汗提出的问题。我们国防媒体活动中心的全体同仁希望你和前线的其他战友注意安全。我们还有成千上万的海外观众在收看美军网络电视，或者在Defense.gov上观看直播，他们也很想和您交流，总统先生。他们可以通过社交媒体参与。现在，劳里·本特准尉将带我们看看社交媒体上的问题。
Moderator Bent: Our next question is going to come from Twitter. Sir, we have a question from JRita2192. “Mr. President, can you share with us your personal experience and memories of when 9/11 first happened?” 本特主持人：下一个问题来自推特。先生，JRita2192网友提问："总统先生，您能分享一下9·11事件刚发生时您的个人经历和记忆吗？"
President Obama: It was interesting -- Michelle and I were just talking about that this morning. Sasha, my youngest daughter, had just been born. She was four or five months old. And September 11th was Malia’s first day of preschool or kindergarten -- I think it was kindergarten. So Michelle had gone with the girls to drop Malia off at school. They were tiny. I was at the time a state senator, so I was going to downtown Chicago to a hearing on an issue. 奥巴马总统：说起来很巧——我和米歇尔今天早上还在聊这件事。我的小女儿萨沙刚出生不久。当时她才四五个月大。9月11日那天是玛丽亚上幼儿园的第一天——我想是幼儿园。所以米歇尔带着两个女儿送玛丽亚去上学。她们还那么小。我当时是州参议员，所以我要去芝加哥市中心参加一个听证会。
And I remember driving on Lake Shore Drive in Chicago and hearing the reports of a plane crashing into the buildings. And at first, the reports were unclear, so you thought it was a Cessna or some accident had happened. And it wasn’t until I got downtown to where the hearing was taking place that we started realizing it was something much more serious. 我记得我开车行驶在芝加哥的湖滨大道上，听到了飞机撞楼的报道。一开始，报道还不清楚，你会以为是一架塞斯纳小型飞机或者什么事故。直到我到达市中心听证会的地点，我们才开始意识到事情要严重得多。
And at that time, no one was sure whether this was a one-off or whether this was going to be an ongoing attack, because then you started getting reports from the Pentagon and other places. So the building was evacuated. And I remember standing downtown Chicago with thousands of other people, and there were a lot of targets, obviously, for possible action, this including -- at the time, it was called the Sears Tower. And people didn’t know what to think. And then I remember going to my law office, and that’s when we saw the images of the Twin Towers starting to come down. 当时，没人确定这是一次性事件还是会持续发生袭击，因为随后你开始听到五角大楼和其他地方的消息。所以大楼被疏散了。我记得我和成千上万的人站在芝加哥市中心，那里有很多可能成为袭击目标的建筑，包括当时还叫西尔斯大厦的那座。人们不知道会发生什么。然后我记得去了我的律师事务所，就在那时，我们看到了双子塔开始倒塌的画面。
And that evening, I have very vivid memories of giving Sasha a bottle and rocking her to sleep while we were watching the aftermath of those attacks. And like I think everybody here, although most of you were a lot younger, it gave you a sense, for the first time in my lifetime, that our homeland could be vulnerable in that way. We hadn’t seen an attack like that since Pearl Harbor. 那天晚上，我记忆犹新的是，我一边给萨沙喂奶瓶，摇着她入睡，一边看着袭击后的报道。我想在座各位都有同感，尽管你们当时大多还年轻，那件事让我第一次感受到，我们的本土也可能如此脆弱。自珍珠港事件以来，我们从未见过这样的袭击。
And I think it inspired all of us to remember just how precious what we have is, and the need for us to defend it at any cost. And although subsequently I would have strong disagreements with the previous administration about certain decisions that were made, I remember and give great credit to President Bush for being at the site, throwing out that first pitch at Yankee Stadium, and everyone remembering that you’re not a Democrat first or a Republican first, or a Texan first or Californian first, you’re an American, and that we all have to come together. 我认为，它激励我们所有人铭记我们所拥有的一切是多么珍贵，以及我们不惜一切代价捍卫它的必要性。尽管后来我对上一届政府做出的某些决定有强烈的不同意见，但我记得并高度赞扬布什总统亲临现场，在洋基体育场投出那第一球，每个人都记得，你首先不是民主党人或共和党人，不是得州人或加州人，你首先是一个美国人，我们必须团结起来。
And my hope is always on a day like today that we remember that sense that what binds us together is much more important than anything that divides us, and that what makes this country special is the fact that we are bound together -- we, or our parents, or our great-grandparents, we all come from different places, but we all have a shared creed, a shared belief system, and a shared set of commitments. And all of you in your service exemplify that every day. 我一直希望，在今天这样的日子里，我们能记住那种将我们凝聚在一起的东西比任何分裂我们的东西都更重要，这个国家的特别之处在于，我们团结在一起——我们、我们的父母、我们的曾祖父母，我们都来自不同的地方，但我们都有共同的信念、共同的信仰体系和共同的承诺。而你们所有人的服役每天都在践行这一点。
Moderator Parry: It was an excellent question from social media. And our viewers can join us and join this conversation on social media from Twitter using the hashtag #askPOTUS, or the Department of Defense’s Facebook page. We’re actually going to go back overseas for you, Mr. President, and Petty Officer Lori Bent is going to take us there. 帕里主持人：这是一个来自社交媒体的精彩问题。我们的观众可以在推特上使用#askPOTUS话题标签，或者在国防部的脸书页面上加入我们的对话。总统先生，我们现在要再次连线海外，劳里·本特准尉将带我们过去。
Moderator Bent: Sir, we are headed to NATO -- Brussels, Belgium -- where we’re going to talk to Navy Commander Scot Cregan. Commander Cregan, go ahead with your question for the President. 本特主持人：先生，我们将前往北约——比利时布鲁塞尔——与海军的斯科特·克里根指挥官对话。克里根指挥官，请向总统提出您的问题。
Commander Cregan: Thank you for your time, Mr. President. I was honored to march in your inaugural parade in 2009, and we briefly met a few years later when I worked a Halloween White House event. I was a Star Wars storm trooper. 克里根指挥官：感谢您抽出时间，总统先生。我很荣幸在2009年您的就职游行中列队行进，几年后我在白宫的万圣节活动中工作时，我们曾短暂见过面。我当时扮成了《星球大战》里的冲锋队士兵。
President Obama: You were great. 奥巴马总统：你演得很棒。
Commander Cregan: You may not remember what I looked like because we all kind of looked alike. On a serious note, we’re seeing more and more refugees coming to Europe by land and by sea. Do you think there should be a NATO response to this crisis? 克里根指挥官：您可能不记得我长什么样了，因为我们看起来都差不多。说正经的，我们看到越来越多的难民通过陆路和海路来到欧洲。您认为北约应该对这场危机做出回应吗？
President Obama: I think that we have to work with our European partners on this issue. The refugee crisis is not just a European problem, it's a world problem. And we have obligations. 奥巴马总统：我认为我们必须与欧洲伙伴合作解决这个问题。难民危机不仅是欧洲的问题，也是全世界的问题。我们有责任。
I made certain to send through every agency that we've got to do our part, first of all, in taking our share of refugees. And those of you who saw some of these heartbreaking images of that small boy drowned -- I think anybody who’s a parent understands that -- that stirs all of our consciences, not just folks on the other side of the Atlantic. 我已经要求我们所有相关机构尽自己的一份力，首先是接收我们应分担的难民。你们中有些人看到了那个小男孩溺亡的令人心碎的画面——我想任何为人父母的人都能理解——这触动了我们所有人的良知，不仅仅是大西洋彼岸的人们。
So I've already been in discussions with people like Prime Minister Renzi of Italy, the Greeks, and others who are down south about how we can enhance maritime efforts to make sure, first of all, that people who are loading up on these rickety boats are safe and we're not seeing enormous loss of life there. We are encouraged by the efforts of the European Union to accept refugees in all countries and spread out some of the burdens and the pressure. 因此，我已经与意大利总理伦齐、希腊以及其他南部国家的领导人讨论了如何加强海上行动，首先确保登上那些摇摇欲坠船只的人们的安全，不再出现巨大的生命损失。我们对欧盟接受各国难民、分担负担和压力的努力感到鼓舞。
And as I said, the United States needs to do our share. I said that we should establish a floor of at least 10,000 refugees that we're willing to accept, and cut through some of the bureaucracy and red tape to do that. 正如我所说，美国需要尽我们的一份力量。我说过，我们应该设定至少接收1万名难民的底线，并简化一些官僚程序和繁文缛节来做到这一点。
Ultimately, though, as you well know, it is really important for us to go to the source. There’s the old story about if you see a bunch of bodies floating down a river, part of your job is to pull those folks out and save who you can, but you’ve also got to go downstream and see what exactly is happening. And this refugee crisis is prompted by the collapse of governance in Syria and the growth of ISIL and the cruelty that Assad is perpetrating on his own people. 但归根结底，正如你们所深知的，我们必须从根源入手。有一个老故事，如果你看到很多尸体从河里漂下来，你的一部分工作是把那些人拉上来，能救多少救多少，但你还得往上游走，看看到底发生了什么。这场难民危机的根源是叙利亚治理的崩溃、ISIL的壮大以及阿萨德对本国人民的残暴行径。
And that's why the response I gave earlier, the importance of us continuing our military efforts against ISIL, but also trying to pull together a strong international, diplomatic effort to bring about some sort of political accord inside of Syria is going to be so important and so vital. 这就是为什么我刚才给出的回应——我们继续对ISIL采取军事行动的重要性，同时努力凝聚强大的国际外交力量，在叙利亚内部达成某种政治协议——将如此重要和关键。
Last point I'll make about this, though -- and this is where NATO planning becomes critical, even as we're, in the short term, helping countries respond to the immediate crisis -- unfortunately, we can anticipate that refugees will be an ongoing problem for decades to come. And the reason is because there are too many states that are not doing well by their people. The spread of media gives people in war-torn countries or in extreme poverty a vision of a better life, and they are desperate and willing to take extraordinary risks to get there. 关于这一点，我最后想说的是——这就是北约规划变得至关重要的原因，即使我们在短期内帮助各国应对眼前的危机——不幸的是，我们可以预见，未来几十年难民问题将持续存在。原因是，有太多国家没有善待本国人民。媒体的普及让战乱国家或极度贫困地区的人们看到了更好的生活，他们绝望了，愿意冒非同寻常的风险去追求更好的生活。
You then have other factors that may end up resulting in more migration and refugees -- for example, climate change. I just came back from Alaska, where you're seeing glaciers melt rapidly. And as temperatures rise, the Pentagon’s own assessment is that this will end up being a national security challenge, in part because people will be displaced from their traditional lands either by drought or by flooding, and that can create more refugee problems. 然后还有其他因素可能最终导致更多移民和难民——例如，气候变化。我刚从阿拉斯加回来，那里的冰川正在迅速融化。五角大楼自己的评估是，随着气温上升，这最终将成为一项国家安全挑战，部分原因是人们将因干旱或洪水而被迫离开传统土地，这可能造成更多的难民问题。
So we're going to have to work globally. And one of the topics, I'm sure, when I go to the United Nations General Assembly leaders gathering that we typically have at the end of this month is to start coming up with a more effective structure for an international response. No one country can solve these problems alone. But the United States, obviously, as the world’s leader, and NATO, as the premier alliance in the world, is going to have to play a central role. 因此，我们必须在全球范围内合作。我确信，本月底我将出席的联合国大会领导人会议上，其中一个议题就是开始制定一个更有效的国际应对框架。没有哪个国家能独自解决这些问题。但显然，作为世界领导者的美国，以及作为世界首要联盟的北约，将必须发挥核心作用。
Moderator Parry: I want to thank the Lt. Commander for that question. Mr. President, we've been to Europe, to Afghanistan. We've gone online, so I think it's time we come back to the studio here at the Defense Media Activity for a question. 帕里主持人：我想感谢中校的提问。总统先生，我们去了欧洲、阿富汗，也连线了网络提问，我想现在该回到国防媒体活动中心的演播室，提一个现场问题了。
President Obama: Let’s do it. 奥巴马总统：来吧。
Question: Good afternoon, Mr. President. [inaudible] from Arizona. You allude to in your opening remarks the threat that cyber currently is. And there’s been a lot of talk within the DOD and cyber community of the possibility of a separate branch of the military dedicated to cyber. I was wondering where you see cyber in the next five to ten years. 提问：总统先生，下午好。我来自亚利桑那州。您在开场白中提到了当前网络威胁的问题。国防部和网络社区内有很多讨论，关于是否可能成立一个专门负责网络的独立军种。我想知道，您认为未来五到十年网络领域会如何发展？
President Obama: Well, it's a great question. We initiated Cyber Command, anticipating that this is going to be a new theater for potential conflict. And what we've seen by both state and non-state actors is the increasing sophistication of hacking, the ability to penetrate systems that we previously thought would be secure. And it is moving fast. So, offense is moving a lot faster than defense. 奥巴马总统：这是一个很好的问题。我们成立了网络司令部，预期到这将成为一个新的潜在冲突领域。我们看到，国家和非国家行为体的黑客技术日益精进，能够渗透我们以前认为安全的系统。而且发展非常快。所以，进攻的发展速度远远快于防御。
Part of this has to do with the way the Internet was originally designed. It was not designed with the expectation that there would end up being three or four or five billion people doing commercial transactions, et cetera. It was thought this was just going to be an academic network to share papers and formulas and whatnot. And so the architecture of the Internet makes it very difficult to defend consistently. 部分原因与互联网最初的设计方式有关。当初设计时，并没有预期最终会有三四十亿人进行商业交易等活动。人们原以为这只是一个用于分享论文和公式的学术网络。因此，互联网的架构使得持续防御变得非常困难。
We continue to be the best in the world at understanding and working within cyber. But other countries have caught up. The Russians are good. The Chinese are good. The Iranians are good. And you’ve got non-state hackers who are excellent. And unlike traditional conflicts and aggression, oftentimes we don't have a return address. If somebody hacks into a system and goes after critical infrastructure, for example, or penetrates our financial systems, we can't necessarily trace it directly to that state or that actor. That makes it more difficult as well. 我们在理解和运用网络方面仍然是世界上最好的。但其他国家已经赶上来了。俄罗斯很厉害，中国很厉害，伊朗也很厉害。还有非国家的黑客组织也非常出色。与传统冲突和侵略不同，很多时候我们找不到"回信地址"。如果有人黑入一个系统，攻击关键基础设施，或者渗透我们的金融系统，我们不一定能直接追溯到那个国家或那个行为体。这也让事情变得更加困难。
So what we've done is to try to emphasize, number one, the need for a coordinated response. And over the last several years, what we've done is to bring together our military agencies, Cyber Command, with the NSA, with our intelligence, and working with the private sector to try to strengthen our defenses much better. And we've made progress, but we're not making enough progress. 所以我们所做的是，首先强调协调应对的必要性。在过去几年里，我们把军方机构、网络司令部与国家安全局、情报部门整合在一起，并与私营部门合作，努力大幅加强我们的防御。我们取得了进展，但还不够。
So I would anticipate that we are going to have to do more both through the Defense Department, but again, we're going to have to work -- because this is not a traditional war theater -- we're going to have to work with a whole bunch of other actors and coordinate with them much more effectively. 所以我预计，我们将不得不在国防部层面做更多工作，而且同样——因为这不是一个传统的战争领域——我们将不得不与大量其他行为体合作，并更有效地与他们协调。
The bulk of vulnerable information and data isn't in our military; it's in the private sector. It's throughout our economy. It's on your smartphones. And so we're going to have to both strengthen overall networks, but we're also going to have to train millions of individual actors -- small businesses, big vendors, individuals -- in terms of basic cyber hygiene. We're going to have to be much more rapid in responding to attacks. 大部分易受攻击的信息和数据并不在军方手里；它们在私营部门。遍布我们的整个经济。在你们的智能手机上。因此，我们既要加强整体网络，也要培训数百万个体行为者——小企业、大供应商、个人——掌握基本的网络卫生。我们必须能够更迅速地应对攻击。
And this is something that we're just at the infancy of. Ultimately, one of the solutions we're going to have to come up with is to craft agreements among at least state actors about what’s acceptable and what’s not. And so, for example, I'm going to be getting a visit from President Xi of China, a state visit here coming up in a couple of weeks. We've made very clear to the Chinese that there are certain practices that they’re engaging in that we know are emanating from China and are not acceptable. 而我们在这方面才刚刚起步。最终，我们必须找到的解决方案之一是，至少在国家行为体之间达成协议，明确什么是可接受的，什么是不可接受的。
And we can choose to make this an area of competition -- which I guarantee you we'll win if we have to -- or, alternatively, we can come to an agreement in which we say, this isn't helping anybody; let’s instead try to have some basic rules of the road in terms of how we operate. 例如，中国国家主席习近平将在几周后对美国进行国事访问。我们已经向中方非常明确地表示，他们正在从事的某些活动，我们知道源自中国，是不可接受的。我们可以选择让这成为一个竞争领域——我向你保证，如果必须的话，我们会赢——或者，我们可以达成协议，说这对谁都没有好处；不如我们尝试制定一些基本的运行规则。
Now, as I said, there’s still going to be individual actors, there are going to be terrorist networks and others, so we're still going to have to build a strong defense. But one of our first and most important efforts has to be to get the states that may be sponsoring cyber-attacks to understand that there comes a point at which we consider this a core national security threat and we will treat it as such. 正如我所说，仍然会有个体行为者，会有恐怖主义网络和其他势力，所以我们仍然需要建立强大的防御。但我们首先也是最重要的努力之一，必须是让那些可能赞助网络攻击的国家明白，到了某个程度，我们会将其视为核心国家安全威胁，并会相应地对待。
Moderator Parry: Excellent question from one of our cyber warriors here at Fort Meade, Maryland. 帕里主持人：来自马里兰州米德堡的一名网络勇士提出了一个非常好的问题。
President Obama: He looks like he knows what he’s doing. 奥巴马总统：他看起来很懂行的样子。
Moderator Parry: Well, we are here on the East Coast, but I hear Petty Officer Lori Bent wants to take us all the way to the West Coast for your next question. 帕里主持人：我们现在在东海岸，但我听说劳里·本特准尉想带我们一路去西海岸，听您的下一个问题。
Moderator Bent: Yes, our next question comes from Joint Base Lewis-McChord from a C-17 instructor pilot, Major Jennifer Moore. Major Moore, go ahead with your question. 本特主持人：是的，下一个问题来自刘易斯-麦科德联合基地，提问的是一位C-17教练机飞行员詹妮弗·穆尔少校。穆尔少校，请提出你的问题。
Major Moore: Mr. President, good afternoon. Sir, both my husband and I have been serving side-by-side as C-17 and T-6 instructor pilots for the past 11 years, and we have two amazing and thriving children. How do you and Mrs. Obama know how to balance life and work to ensure your children will grow up to be successful in their future endeavors? 穆尔少校：总统先生，下午好。先生，我和我丈夫在过去11年里一直并肩服役，分别是C-17和T-6教练机飞行员，我们有两个了不起的、健康成长的孩子。您和奥巴马夫人是如何平衡生活与工作，以确保你们的孩子未来能够成功的？
President Obama: Well, first of all, thanks to you and your husband both for serving. And tell your kids I said hi and that they should do what you tell them to do. How old are your kids? 奥巴马总统：首先，感谢你和你丈夫的服役。代我向你的孩子们问好，告诉他们要听妈妈的话。你的孩子们多大了？
Major Moore: Well, my daughter, Gabby, is seven and my son, Robert, is four. I have a picture, sir. It would kill me if I didn’t have an opportunity to show you. 穆尔少校：我女儿加比七岁，儿子罗伯特四岁。我有照片，先生。如果没机会给您看的话，我会遗憾死的。
President Obama: Sure. Hold up the picture. Oh, that’s a good-looking crew right there. They’re adorable. 奥巴马总统：当然可以。把照片举起来。哦，真是漂亮的一家人。他们太可爱了。
Major Moore: Absolutely. The happiest place on Earth, thank you, sir. 穆尔少校：没错。地球上最幸福的地方，谢谢您，先生。
President Obama: Well, I’ll give you -- the best advice that I probably can offer is for me, at least, I just do what Michelle tells me to do and it seems to work out. And your husband may take the same approach. And those are great ages -- seven and four -- because you come home and they’re jumping on you, and so excited to see you. When they get to be 17 and 14, then they still love you, but you’re not very interesting. 奥巴马总统：我给你的最好建议——至少对我来说——就是米歇尔说什么我就做什么，似乎这样就行。你丈夫可能也会采取同样的做法。这个年纪真好——七岁和四岁——你回到家，他们就扑到你身上，见到你特别兴奋。等他们长到17岁和14岁的时候，他们仍然爱你，但你就不那么有趣了。
But everybody here, the demands of your jobs are so extraordinary, and it’s not like you’re always on the clock, you’ve just got to get the job done. And that puts a lot of pressure on folks. One thing I know we can do is make sure that our military is supporting families, and that means making sure that housing and child care, all the things that go into supporting families when they’re stationed -- particularly given how much they’re moving -- becomes absolutely critical. 但在座的每一位，你们的工作要求都非常高，而且不是朝九晚五的工作，你们必须把工作完成。这给大家带来了很大压力。我知道我们能做的一件事就是确保我们的军队支持家庭，这意味着确保住房、育儿以及所有支持驻军家庭的设施——考虑到他们经常搬家，这变得绝对至关重要。
And Michelle has worked with Dr. Jill Biden on Joining Forces to make sure that we are spending a lot of time thinking about how are we supporting military families on an ongoing basis, including those spouses who are not in service but who are serving alongside, and do so much critical work -- making sure that they have the opportunity, for example, to find a job if they’re getting transferred, and have the kind of backing that they need. So that’s really important. You shouldn’t have to do this alone. 米歇尔和吉尔·拜登博士一直在开展"携手并进"（Joining Forces）倡议，确保我们花大量时间思考如何持续支持军人家属，包括那些没有服役但与军人一同奉献的配偶们，她们做了大量关键的工作——确保她们在调动时有机会找到工作，并获得所需的支持。这真的很重要。你们不应该独自承担这一切。
What Michelle and I did with Malia and Sasha I think early on is we just -- we’re a strong believer in structure and rules, and unconditional love but being pretty firm, too. We started real early: Here’s your bedtime. Here’s when you’re not watching TV. You’ll sit there and eat your vegetables even if we have to sit there with you, watch you chew for 10 minutes -- and we’re going to watch you swallow. And if you start early enough with just high expectations, I think kids do well with that. 米歇尔和我在玛丽亚和萨沙小的时候，我们——我们坚信规矩和原则，无条件的爱，但也要相当严格。我们很早就开始了：这是你的就寝时间。这是你不能看电视的时间。你得坐那儿把蔬菜吃了，哪怕我们得坐在旁边看着你嚼十分钟——我们还要看着你咽下去。如果你早点对孩子抱有高期望，我觉得他们会做得很好。
And part of that involves just loving those kids to death, but also letting them know, you know what, I’m your parent, I’m not your best friend. So I’m not that interested in what your friends are doing -- they’ve got parents, their parents can make a decision. This is what you’re doing in our house. And when you leave here, you’ll be able to make your own decisions, but we’re trying to prepare you so that you’ve got some sense when you get out of here. 部分原因还在于，要爱孩子爱到骨子里，但也要让他们知道，我是你的家长，不是你最好的朋友。所以我对你朋友在做什么不感兴趣——他们有他们的父母，他们的父母会做决定。这是我们家的规矩。等你离开家了，你可以自己做决定，但我们现在是在为你做准备，让你出去以后能有判断力。
And I think that’s worked. I think that’s been appreciated. Sometimes they complain. They say, well, how come so-and-so is able to stay out until whatever hour? It’s like, well, that’s not really our problem, is it? And they’re getting old enough now where sometimes they appreciate it -- mainly because they also know that we just -- we adore them. 我觉得这样做是有效的。我觉得孩子们也很感激。有时候他们会抱怨。他们会说，为什么谁谁谁可以在外面待到那么晚？我就说，那不是我们的问题，对吧？他们现在长大了，有时候也会理解——主要是因为他们也知道我们有多爱他们。
And last thing, I guess, is just, as much as possible, we try to make sure every night when we’re home that they have to sit down and eat dinner with us. I’m a big believer in not getting the TV trays out and watching the Kardashians. You sit down, leave your cell phone somewhere else, and we’ll have a conversation. And that seems to help, too. 最后一点，我想，只要有可能，我们尽量确保每天晚上在家的时候，他们必须坐下来和我们一起吃晚饭。我非常不赞成把餐盘端到电视前看卡戴珊真人秀。你要坐下来，把手机放在别的地方，我们好好聊聊天。这似乎也很有帮助。
That’s all, by the way, me just channeling Michelle. Like I said, the main thing for your husband to do is just listen to you. 顺便说一句，这些都是我照搬米歇尔的话。就像我说的，你丈夫要做的就是听你的。
Moderator Parry: That was an excellent question and I know my wife, Jazzy, would agree. I listen to her day in and day out. 帕里主持人：这个问题问得太好了，我知道我妻子贾齐也会同意。我每天都听她的。
Major Moore: I’ll tell him that, sir. Thank you very much. 穆尔少校：我会告诉他的，先生。非常感谢。
President Obama: Thank you. 奥巴马总统：谢谢。
Moderator Parry: And I know, I’m sure all of our service members who have families would agree a large part of why we do what we do and how we can do what we do is those loved ones we have at home. 帕里主持人：我相信，我们所有有家室的官兵都会同意，我们之所以能做我们所做的工作，很大程度上是因为我们在家的亲人。
President Obama: Absolutely. 奥巴马总统：没错。
Moderator Parry: I’m sure we all appreciate our family members there. So we do have family members watching on American Forces Network -- I know my wife, she’s watching on Defense.gov right now with my two-year-old son -- and they have an opportunity to talk to you as well through social media. 帕里主持人：我相信我们都感谢我们的家人。我们有很多家属在通过美军网络收看——我知道我妻子和我两岁的儿子正在Defense.gov上观看——他们也有机会通过社交媒体与您交流。
President Obama: Excellent. 奥巴马总统：太好了。
Moderator Parry: Petty Officer Lori Bent is going to take us there now. 帕里主持人：劳里·本特准尉现在将带我们看看社交媒体上的提问。
Moderator Bent: We are headed online to Facebook. Sir, this question is coming from Michael Ong: “Mr. President, how do you keep striving for great accomplishment with a positive attitude while everyone seems to be hating and talking smack about you and all you do?” 本特主持人：我们来看看脸书上的问题。先生，这个问题来自迈克尔·翁："总统先生，当似乎所有人都在讨厌你、说你坏话的时候，你是如何保持积极态度、继续追求伟大成就的？"
President Obama: Yeah! You know, the truth is, is that not everyone is talking smack about me. But there is a sizable percentage in Congress that talks smack about me, no doubt about it. It’s interesting -- when you go into public service, I think there are two ways to approach it. One way to approach it is that you just want to be popular. You want to get elected, you want to stay in office, you want to be popular. 奥巴马总统：哈哈！你知道吗，事实上，并不是所有人都在说我坏话。但国会里确实有相当一部分人在批评我，这是毫无疑问的。有意思的是——当你投身公共服务时，我认为有两种态度。一种态度是，你只是想受欢迎。你想当选，想保住职位，想受人欢迎。
Another way of approaching it is, I want a particular position because I want to get something done for the American people. And not everything that is right to do is going to be the popular thing to do. 另一种态度是，我想要某个职位是因为我想为美国人民做点实事。而正确的事情并不总是受欢迎的事情。
And I made a decision early on that if I was going to do this, if I was going to run for elected office, that I had to have some core, some set of beliefs and principles, and that there would be times where I made mistakes or I made a wrong call, but that I was guided by what I thought was best for the American people, and that I couldn’t worry about short-term popularity if I was going to do my best. 我很早就做出了决定，如果我要从政，如果我要竞选公职，我必须有一些核心的信念和原则，有时候我会犯错误或做出错误的判断，但我以我认为对美国人民最有利的事情为指引，如果我要尽力而为，就不能担心短期的民意支持率。
So I’ll give you a good example. When I came into office, early on, we had the worst financial crisis in our history. One of the casualties of that was the U.S. auto industry. The big three automakers were on the verge of flat-lining, and were getting all these bailouts but they weren’t changing what they were doing. And a lot of folks thought that Chrysler was going to go bankrupt, and then GM was going to go next, and then all the suppliers would lose out, and pretty soon all we would be able to buy is Japanese and Korean and German cars. 我给你举个好例子。我刚上任时，我们遭遇了历史上最严重的金融危机。受害者之一就是美国汽车工业。三大汽车制造商濒临倒闭，他们拿了各种救助资金，但却没有改变经营方式。很多人认为克莱斯勒会破产，然后通用汽车也会步其后尘，然后所有供应商都会倒闭，很快我们就只能买日本、韩国和德国的车了。
And I said, this is an industry that’s too important -- one that we essentially built -- for us to be able to just let it go. And I knew that we had to put more money into it to get the industry back on its feet, but I also knew that we had to force them to make management changes so they could start building good cars and competing again. 我说，这个产业太重要了——基本上是我们一手建立的——我们不能眼睁睁看着它垮掉。我知道我们必须投入更多资金让这个产业重新站起来，但我也知道，我们必须迫使他们进行管理层改革，这样他们才能开始制造好车、重新参与竞争。
Well, I tell you, when we put forward our plan, I think that 10 percent of people agreed with it. Even in Michigan, I think the overwhelming majority of people opposed it, opposed our plan. And if I had been thinking in terms of just looking at the poll numbers, I wouldn’t have done it. But I looked at the evidence and what I thought was going to be best, and we did it. 我告诉你，当我们提出我们的计划时，我想只有10%的人同意。即使在密歇根州，我想绝大多数人也反对它，反对我们的计划。如果我当时只看民调数字，我就不会这么做了。但我审视了证据，考虑了我认为最好的做法，然后我们做了。
And this year, we’re probably going to sell more U.S. cars than we have in 20 years, and they’ve hired back hundreds of thousands of workers, and it’s been driving a rebound of American manufacturing that is vital to our economy. 而今年，我们的汽车销量可能会创下20年来的新高，他们已经重新雇用了数十万工人，带动了美国制造业的复苏，这对我们的经济至关重要。
So the longer I’m in this office, the more committed I am to making those calls. And part of the challenge in this job is, is that if it’s an easy question it doesn’t get to my desk. The only things that come to my desk are things that somebody else hasn’t been able to solve. And my job is to make a decision based on sometimes imperfect information and you’re working on the percentages. 我在这个职位上待得越久，就越坚定地做出这样的决定。这份工作的部分挑战在于，如果是简单的问题，根本不会送到我的办公桌上。送到我桌上的，都是别人解决不了的问题。我的工作就是在信息有时不完美的情况下做出决定，靠的是概率判断。
When I made the order for us to go in and get bin Laden at that house in Pakistan, it was probably a 50/50 proposition as to whether that was, in fact, him, and the risks obviously were enormous. If I had been making that decision based on wanting to avoid risk and not having somebody talk smack about me, then that might not be a decision that I would have been prepared to make. 当我下令突袭巴基斯坦那栋房子、击毙本·拉登时，那个人是不是本·拉登，大概只有五五开的把握，风险显然是巨大的。如果我做决定是为了规避风险、不想让人说三道四，那我可能不会做出那个决定。
And part of this is my own personal faith and prayer, and part of it is the support of an incredible family and friends. And part of it is seeing the sacrifices that all of you make. When I go to Walter Reed and I visit wounded troops, then I say to myself, well, I’ve got to be serious about what I do, and I can’t be worrying about poll numbers or what cable TV says. I’ve got to make sure that I am, to the best of my abilities, making the decisions that I think are going to be most important for American prosperity and American security over the long term. 部分原因是我个人的信仰和祷告，部分原因是我有了不起的家人和朋友的支持。还有一部分原因是看到了你们所有人做出的牺牲。当我去沃尔特·里德医院看望受伤的士兵时，我对自己说，我必须认真对待我的工作，我不能担心民调数字或有线电视上怎么说。我必须确保，尽我最大的能力，做出我认为从长远来看对美国繁荣和安全最重要的决定。
And that way, you can at least sleep at night. That way when I go to bed, I go to bed easy, because I know that I’ve made the best decisions I could make. 这样，你至少能睡个安稳觉。这样我上床睡觉的时候，就能安心入睡，因为我知道我已经做出了我能做的最好的决定。
Now, the only way that works is if I’m also open and listening to see if the decisions I made were the right ones, is it working. And I’ve got to be open to the fact that sometimes I may not make the right decision, and I’m willing to correct it. And I’ve got to own that. And that’s what I always tell everybody in the White House, is if somebody screws up -- because there will be some screw-ups -- own it and correct it, and learn from it. And what applies to everybody on my team applies to me, as well. 当然，这行得通的前提是，我也保持开放的心态，倾听意见，看看我做的决定是否正确、是否有效。我必须接受这样一个事实：有时候我可能做出了错误的决定，我愿意纠正它。我必须为此承担责任。我总是告诉白宫里的每一个人，如果有人搞砸了——因为总会有搞砸的时候——要敢于承认，及时纠正，从中吸取教训。对我团队每个人的要求，也同样适用于我自己。
So I think some of you may recall when we passed health care, everything was working fine until there was this website that didn’t work. It was a disaster -- even though I had been asking every two weeks, how’s the website going, I hope this works. But it didn’t work. And we had to own that and double down. And we corrected it in three or four months, and now 16 million people have health insurance that didn’t have it before, and it actually costs less than people anticipated. 我想你们中有些人可能还记得，我们通过医改法案的时候，一切都很顺利，直到那个网站出了问题。那简直是一场灾难——尽管我每两周就问一次，网站怎么样了，我希望它能正常运行。但它就是不行。我们必须承担责任，加倍努力。我们用了三四个月就纠正了过来，现在有1600万人因此获得了以前没有的医疗保险，而且成本比人们预期的还要低。
It's working the way it should have. But that was a screw-up, and there’s no point in trying to hide things when they don’t work. 它现在运行得就像它本应该的那样。但那确实是一次失误，出了问题就没必要藏着掖着。
So I guess the last thing I’d say is I tend to just take the long view on things. Political polls and what the pundits say and what other politicians say -- that comes and goes. It goes up and goes down. I try to think 20 years from now, when I look back, will people say, this person operated with integrity and made decisions that were best for the country. And so far that’s working for me, anyway. 所以我想说的最后一点是，我倾向于从长远来看待事情。民调、专家的言论、其他政客的说法——这些都是过眼云烟。起起落落。我试着去想，20年后，当我回首往事时，人们会说，这个人做事正直，做出的决定最符合国家利益。至少到目前为止，这个心态对我还挺管用的。
It doesn’t mean I’m not sometimes a little offended. That’s why I go to the gym, work it off. 这并不意味着我有时候不会有点生气。所以我才去健身房，把火气发泄掉。
Moderator Parry: Well, Mr. President, your next question -- Petty Officer Lori Bent is going to take us overseas. 帕里主持人：总统先生，您的下一个问题——劳里·本特准尉将带我们连线海外。
Moderator Bent: Sir, your next question is coming from Gunnery Sergeant Bryson Elliott, and he’s at U.S. AFRICOM Stuttgart, Germany. Gunny, go ahead with your question. 本特主持人：先生，下一个问题来自布莱森·埃利奥特枪炮中士，他在德国斯图加特的美国非洲司令部。枪炮中士，请提出你的问题。
Gunnery Sergeant Elliott: First of all, sir, thank you. Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. Mr. President, my question is, how are military exercises like African Lion with Morocco strengthening the relationships between the U.S. and African nations? 埃利奥特枪炮中士：首先，长官，谢谢您。下午好。感谢您回答我的问题。总统先生，我的问题是，像与摩洛哥举行的"非洲狮"这样的军事演习，是如何加强美国与非洲国家之间的关系的？
President Obama: Well, it’s a great question. And thank you for your service. Tell everybody at AFRICOM we appreciate them. 奥巴马总统：这是一个很好的问题。感谢你的服役。代我向非洲司令部的所有人问好，我们感谢他们。
I just came back from Africa several months ago, and there are huge challenges there, but also huge opportunities. First of all, that’s a continent that appreciates America. When you look at polls, the continent as a whole, their positive views of America are as high as any other continent in the world. So the people of the African continent admire the United States. They appreciate our values and our way of life, and there’s a real connection. 我几个月前刚从非洲回来，那里面临着巨大的挑战，但也蕴含着巨大的机遇。首先，那是一个欣赏美国的大陆。看看民意调查，整个非洲大陆对美国的正面看法与世界上任何其他大陆一样高。所以非洲人民钦佩美国。他们欣赏我们的价值观和生活方式，我们之间有着真正的联系。
It also is the continent with some of the fastest-growing economies in the world. I think we tend to have stereotypes about Africa as Ebola and poverty and all this stuff. When you travel there, they’re moving. And you go to cities there, and everybody has got a cell phone, and everybody is hustling, and everybody is working. And that’s going to be one of the great next arenas for economic growth and trade. And that means that the United States is selling more goods there and they’re selling more here, and there are enormous opportunities. So our prosperity with them is tied together. 非洲也是世界上一些增长最快的经济体所在地。我觉得我们对非洲有刻板印象，好像只有埃博拉和贫困之类的。当你去那里旅行时，你会发现他们充满活力。你走进那里的城市，每个人都有手机，每个人都在努力打拼，每个人都在工作。那里将是下一个经济增长和贸易的重要舞台之一。这意味着美国在那里销售更多商品，他们也在这里销售更多商品，存在着巨大的机遇。所以我们的繁荣与他们的繁荣紧密相连。
What is also true is, is that there are parts of Africa -- particularly North Africa, but it’s seeping down along the coasts -- where violent Islamic extremism has taken hold. And Somalia being a prime example where Al-Shabaab has been working for a long time; Boko Haram in Nigeria; al Qaeda in the Maghreb. And so we have to have a strategy to partner with those countries to ensure that our intelligence capabilities, our rapid-response capabilities, and their own capabilities for maintaining order and pushing back against extremism -- that they are a lot stronger in the years to come. 但事实也是如此，非洲部分地区——尤其是北非，但正沿着海岸向南蔓延——暴力伊斯兰极端主义已经扎根。索马里就是一个典型例子，青年党在那里活动了很长时间；尼日利亚的博科圣地；马格里布的基地组织。因此，我们必须制定战略，与这些国家合作，确保我们的情报能力、快速反应能力以及他们自身维护秩序和打击极端主义的能力——在未来几年都能大幅增强。
The good news is that these countries are eager for that kind of cooperation. Countries like Nigeria, countries like Kenya welcome our presence, welcome our training of their troops. We have excellent CT cooperation with them. The big problem they’ve got is capacity, but capacity is one of those things you can solve where you’ve got a willing partner. 好消息是，这些国家都渴望这种合作。像尼日利亚、肯尼亚这样的国家欢迎我们的存在，欢迎我们训练他们的军队。我们与他们有着出色的反恐合作。他们最大的问题是能力不足，但只要有愿意合作的伙伴，能力问题是可以解决的。
So we’re working with the joint chiefs to develop plans so that we are continuing to build up partnership capabilities across the continent. And that will help us not only with homegrown problems inside of Africa, but those platforms then also allow us to act more effectively against deeply rooted organizations like al Qaeda on the peninsula in Yemen, because that’s right across the ocean and we want to be able to make sure that we can target those terrorist networks effectively. Having African partners helps us do that. 因此，我们正在与参谋长联席会议合作制定计划，继续在整个非洲大陆建立伙伴能力。这不仅有助于我们应对非洲内部的本土问题，这些平台也使我们能够更有效地打击根深蒂固的组织，比如阿拉伯半岛的基地组织（在也门），因为就在大洋对面，我们希望能够确保有效地瞄准那些恐怖主义网络。有了非洲伙伴，我们就能更好地做到这一点。
Moderator Parry: Mr. President, we’re hoping to squeeze in at least one more question. 帕里主持人：总统先生，我们希望至少再挤出一个问题。
President Obama: Come on. 奥巴马总统：来吧。
Moderator Parry: Excellent. Because I promised you earlier, we have viewers out at sea -- in fact, that’s where Petty Officer Lori Bent is going to take us now. 帕里主持人：太好了。因为我之前答应过您，我们还有海上的观众——事实上，劳里·本特准尉现在就要带我们去海上。
Moderator Bent: And what do you know, this sailor is going to take you out to sea for your next question, Mr. President. This is coming from the deployed USS Theodore Roosevelt, and on the phone, we have Petty Officer Joseph Everett. Petty Officer Everett, you are on the line. Go ahead. 本特主持人：您猜怎么着，这位水兵要带您出海听下一个问题，总统先生。问题来自部署中的西奥多·罗斯福号航空母舰，电话那头是约瑟夫·埃弗雷特准尉。埃弗雷特准尉，您已接通。请讲。
Petty Office Everett: Good afternoon, Mr. President. I’m Petty Officer Joseph Everett calling you from the Theodore Roosevelt. I just want to thank you for taking the time to talk to me. 埃弗雷特准尉：总统先生，下午好。我是约瑟夫·埃弗雷特准尉，从西奥多·罗斯福号上给您打电话。我只想感谢您抽出时间与我交谈。
President Obama: Hey, Joe. 奥巴马总统：嘿，乔。
Petty Office Everett: I’m very honored to have this opportunity. 埃弗雷特准尉：我非常荣幸有这个机会。
President Obama: Hold on, Joe, we’re having trouble hearing you here. Slight technical difficulties. But if somebody can hear, they can repeat the question to us. 奥巴马总统：等一下，乔，我们这边听不太清楚。有点技术故障。但如果有人能听到，可以把问题重复给我们听。
Moderator Parry: Petty Officer Everett, would you like to try that question again? 帕里主持人：埃弗雷特准尉，您愿意再问一次吗？
Petty Office Everett: Good afternoon, Mr. President. This is Petty Officer Joseph Everett calling you from the Theodore Roosevelt. I just want to thank you for giving me this opportunity today, and I’m very honored. 埃弗雷特准尉：总统先生，下午好。我是约瑟夫·埃弗雷特准尉，从西奥多·罗斯福号上给您打电话。我只想感谢您今天给我这个机会，我感到非常荣幸。
President Obama: Well, I can hear you just fine now, Joe. And tell everybody on the ship we appreciate them, hope they get back home safe. You got a question for us? 奥巴马总统：乔，我现在听得很清楚了。代我向舰上所有人问好，希望他们平安回家。你有问题要问我们吗？
Petty Office Everett: Yes, Mr. President. During your presidency, you’ve had a lot of great experiences. What would you say is your most rewarding? 埃弗雷特准尉：是的，总统先生。在您的总统任期内，您有过很多精彩的经历。您认为最有成就感的是什么？
President Obama: Wow. Well, that’s a big question. I tell you that there are different kinds of rewarding experiences, obviously, in this office. But across the board, what ends up being most rewarding for me is when somebody comes up to me in a rope line when I’m appearing someplace or at some event, and they say, “Mr. President, you helped me.” 奥巴马总统：哇。这可是个大问题。我得说，在这个职位上，显然有不同类型的成就感。但总的来说，对我而言最有成就感的，是当我在某个活动的人群排队等候时，有人走过来对我说："总统先生，您帮助了我。"
I’ve had moms come up and say, Mr. President, my son, who’s 25 years old, didn’t have health insurance when you passed that law to make sure that he could stay on my health insurance. He finally got a checkup after three, four years. They found a tumor, but they were able to get it out in time and now he’s doing fine, and I appreciate it. 有一些母亲走过来对我说，总统先生，我儿子今年25岁，在您通过那项法律之前他没有医疗保险——那项法律让他可以继续享受我医保计划的保障。三四年后他终于做了体检。他们发现了一个肿瘤，但及时切除了，现在他恢复得很好，我非常感谢您。
Or we have White House tours of wounded warriors, and once this wonderful couple was there, both the husband and wife were service members. They had two adorable little kids. And as I was coining them and shaking their hands, one of them said -- the wife said, “I just want to thank you because you saved our family.” Because the husband had had PTSD but wasn’t getting help, and she had written to us and I had had folks at DOD reach out, and he had gotten counseling and now was doing well and the family was thriving. 还有一次， wounded warrior（受伤战士）来白宫参观，有一对很棒的夫妇，丈夫和妻子都是军人。他们有两个可爱的小孩。当我给他们颁发纪念币、和他们握手时，其中一个人——是妻子说："我只想谢谢您，因为您拯救了我们的家庭。"因为她丈夫患有创伤后应激障碍，但一直没有寻求帮助，她给我们写了信，我让国防部的人联系了他，他接受了心理辅导，现在状态很好，家庭也很幸福。
A lot of times, this stuff seems abstract, and there’s just a bunch of folks talking on television and it all seems like politics and arguing. But one of the things that you learn the longer you’re in this is that these decisions matter, and you’re touching people directly in some kind of way. And when you hear that something you did actually helped, then you say to yourself, all right, this was worth it, this was a good day. 很多时候，这些事情似乎很抽象，电视上总是一群人在说话，感觉全是政治和争论。但你在这个职位上待得越久，就越明白这些决定很重要，它们以某种方式直接影响着人们的生活。当你听到你做的某件事真的帮到了别人，你就会对自己说，好吧，这一切都是值得的，今天是美好的一天。
And I know that everybody here feels that same way. There are going to be frustrations in our work. There are going to be challenges in our work. Many of you operate in obscurity, and people don’t always say thank you. But then every once in a while, you see that, all right, what I did helped, made a difference. Somebody is safer. Somebody who was hungry has eaten. Somebody whose home was destroyed, now they’ve got shelter. Somebody whose village had been overrun, now they’ve got a chance at some security and some freedom. And that's what keeps you going. That's what inspires you. 我知道在座的每个人都有同样的感受。我们的工作中会有挫折。会有挑战。你们中许多人默默无闻地工作，人们并不总是说谢谢。但偶尔，你会看到，我所做的事情帮到了别人，产生了影响。有人更安全了。有人饿肚子的，现在吃上饭了。有人家园被毁的，现在有了栖身之所。有村庄被侵占的，现在有了获得安全和自由的机会。这就是支撑你走下去的动力。这就是激励你的源泉。
So those are the most gratifying moments of my presidency. And the plane is cool. And Marine One. I don’t want to leave the Marines out. 所以这些是我总统任期内最有成就感的时刻。当然，那架飞机也很酷。还有海军陆战队一号。我可不能把海军陆战队给忘了。
Moderator Parry: Well, Mr. President, we know one of those challenges is that you do have other obligations and time constraints. I want to thank you on the part of Defense Media Activity, our soldiers, sailors, Marines, and airmen across the world, and the Coast Guard, and we are representing the Coast Guard here as well. Thank you. And if you have any final remarks for us. 帕里主持人：总统先生，我们知道这些挑战之一是您还有其他事务和时间限制。我谨代表国防媒体活动中心、世界各地的陆军、海军、海军陆战队、空军士兵，以及海岸警卫队——我们今天也有海岸警卫队的代表——感谢您。谢谢您。如果您还有什么最后的话要对我们说。
President Obama: I just want to say thank you to all of you and to your family members for your extraordinary service. What you do is vital to our way of life. It is vital our country. 奥巴马总统：我只想对你们所有人和你们的家人说，感谢你们非凡的奉献。你们所做的一切对我们的生活方式至关重要。对我们的国家至关重要。
I started off talking about 9/11 and how shaken all of us were, and angry and frustrated, and moved by it. But when you travel to New York now, there’s a new tower soaring in the sky. And those first responders, the cops and the firemen and the EMTs, a lot of them are still serving and still doing great work every day. And it’s just a good reminder of the essential spirit of the American people. 我一开始谈到了9·11，以及当时我们所有人有多么震惊、愤怒、沮丧和感动。但现在当你去纽约时，一座新的大厦正拔地而起。那些第一响应者——警察、消防员、急救人员——很多人仍在服役，每天都在出色地工作。这很好地提醒了美国人民的精神本质。
We don’t always get things perfect the first time. There are times where we take a hit. There are times where, unfortunately, we have self-imposed problems because of politics or conflicts inside our own country. Our political system is not always serving people the way it should. 我们并不总是一开始就能把事情做对。有时候我们会遭受打击。有时候，不幸的是，我们因为政治或国内的冲突而自找麻烦。我们的政治体系并不总是像它应该的那样为人民服务。
One of the things that we haven’t had a chance to talk about is the fact that Congress has a budget that it’s supposed to be passing at the end of this month, and we’ve been operating under what’s called a sequester, which is hampering our ability to finance the kind of readiness and modernization and research and development and support for our troops that’s needed. It’s also preventing us from funding education and job training and infrastructure that is vital for our long-term economic competitiveness. 我们没有机会讨论的一件事是，国会本应在本月底通过一项预算，而我们一直处于所谓的"自动减支"机制之下，这妨碍了我们为军队的战备、现代化、研发和官兵支持提供所需的资金。它也阻碍了我们为教育、职业培训和基础设施提供资金，而这些对我们的长期经济竞争力至关重要。
I hope Congress is paying attention to how you operate and how you do your job -- because if they were as conscientious about it and selfless about it, then that sequester would be lifted, and we would end up being in a position where we could make the investments we need to stay strong, militarily and economically. 我希望国会能注意到你们是如何运作、如何工作的——因为如果他们也能像你们一样认真负责、无私奉献，那么自动减支就会被取消，我们就能够进行所需的投资，以保持军事和经济上的强大。
So we’ve got challenges. But just think about how we bounced back -- from 9/11, from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. America is the strongest, the most prosperous and the most diverse country on Earth. And the 21st century is being shaped by our ideas of the Internet and of international trade and free markets. And the reason for all of that is because of our people. 我们确实面临挑战。但想想我们是如何东山再起的——从9·11中，自大萧条以来最严重的金融危机中。美国是地球上最强大、最繁荣、最多元化的国家。21世纪正在由我们的理念塑造——关于互联网、关于国际贸易和自由市场的理念。而这一切的原因，都在于我们的人民。
Sometimes we hear about all the bad stuff that’s going on, especially during political season. But America is strong. And it’s strong because of all of you. And I never want you to forget that. You should be very proud of what you do, and very proud of the people that you represent in uniform every single day -- because this country is full of good, generous, hardworking people and they rely on you and they are grateful to you. All right. Tell your families I said hi back home. Thank you, everybody. 有时候我们会听到各种负面消息，尤其是在政治季。但美国是强大的。它之所以强大，是因为你们所有人。我永远不希望你们忘记这一点。你们应该为自己所做的工作感到非常自豪，为你们每天身着军装所代表的人民感到非常自豪——因为这个国家充满了善良、慷慨、勤劳的人民，他们依赖你们，也感激你们。好了。代我向你们的家人问好。谢谢大家。
Moderator Parry: Ladies and gentlemen, our Commander-in-Chief. 帕里主持人：女士们先生们，掌声送给我们的总司令。
President Obama: Thank you. Appreciate it. 奥巴马总统：谢谢。非常感谢。
