Joint Remarks to the Press Following Bilateral Meeting(双边会晤后向媒体发表的联合讲话)

Joint Remarks to the Press Following Bilateral Meeting(双边会晤后向媒体发表的联合讲话)

2011/5/20Oval Office, White House, Washington, D.C., United States

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演讲背景:2011年5月20日,美国总统巴拉克·奥巴马与到访的以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡在白宫椭圆形办公室举行双边会晤后,共同向媒体发表联合讲话。此次会晤围绕中东局势展开,双方讨论了阿拉伯之春带来的机遇与风险、埃及和叙利亚的动荡、伊朗核威胁以及巴以和平进程等核心议题。奥巴马重申了前一天演讲中提出的原则,强调以色列作为犹太国家的安全不可妥协,但在边界和难民问题上与以方存在分歧。内塔尼亚胡则明确拒绝回到1967年边界,指出该防线无法防守,要求巴勒斯坦人在法塔赫与哈马斯之间作出选择。两人虽措辞有别,均表达了推动中东和平的共同愿望。

President Obama: Well, let me, first of all, welcome again Prime Minister Netanyahu, who I think has now been here seven times during the course of my presidency. And I want to indicate that the frequency of these meetings is an indication of the extraordinary bonds between our two countries, as is the opportunity for the Prime Minister to address Congress during his visit here. I know that’s an honor that’s reserved for those who have always shown themselves to be a great friend of the United States and is indicative of the friendship between our countries. 奥巴马总统:首先,让我再次欢迎内塔尼亚胡总理,我想这已是我任期内他第七次来访。我想指出,我们会面的频率表明了两国之间非同寻常的纽带关系,总理此次访问期间有机会在国会发表演讲亦是如此。我知道,这一荣誉是留给那些始终证明自己是美国伟大朋友的人的,也体现了我们两国之间的友谊。

We just completed a prolonged and extremely useful conversation touching on a wide range of issues. We discussed, first of all, the changes that are sweeping the region and what has been happening in places like Egypt and Syria and how they affect the interests and security of the United States and Israel, as well as the opportunity for prosperity, growth and development in the Arab world. 我们刚刚结束了一场涉及广泛议题的长时间且极为有益的对话。我们首先讨论了席卷该地区的变革,以及埃及和叙利亚等地正在发生的事情如何影响美国和以色列的利益与安全,还有阿拉伯世界实现繁荣、增长和发展的机遇。

We agreed that there is a moment of opportunity that can be seized as a consequence of the Arab Spring, but also acknowledge that there’s significant perils as well, and that it’s going to be important for the United States and Israel to consult closely as we see developments unfold. 我们一致认为,"阿拉伯之春"带来了可以把握的机遇之窗,但也承认其中存在重大风险,美国和以色列密切磋商以应对局势发展将至关重要。

I outlined for the Prime Minister some of the issues that I discussed in my speech yesterday -- how important it was going to be for the United States to support political reform, support human rights, support freedom of speech, religious tolerance and economic development, particularly in Egypt, as the largest Arab country, as well as Tunisia, the country that first started this revolutionary movement that’s taking place throughout the Middle East and North Africa. 我向总理概述了我昨天演讲中讨论的一些议题——美国支持政治改革、支持人权、支持言论自由、宗教宽容和经济发展有多么重要,尤其是在作为最大阿拉伯国家的埃及,以及率先掀起这场席卷中东和北非革命运动的突尼斯。

We also discussed the situation in Syria, which is obviously of acute concern to Israel, given its shared border. And I gave more details to the Prime Minister about the significant steps that we are taking to try to pressure Syria and the Assad regime to reform, including the sanctions that we placed directly on President Assad. 我们还讨论了叙利亚局势,考虑到其与以色列接壤,这显然是以色列高度关切的问题。我向总理提供了更多细节,说明我们正采取重大措施施压叙利亚和阿萨德政权进行改革,包括我们直接对阿萨德总统实施的制裁。

We continue to share our deep concerns about Iran, not only the threat that it poses to Israel but also the threat that it poses to the region and the world if it were to develop a nuclear weapon. We updated our strategy to continue to apply pressure, both through sanctions and our other diplomatic work. And I reiterated my belief that it is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. 我们继续共同深切关注伊朗问题,不仅因其对以色列构成的威胁,也因其一旦发展核武器将对地区和世界构成的威胁。我们更新了战略,继续通过制裁和其他外交手段施加压力。我重申了我的立场,即伊朗拥有核武器是不可接受的。

We also discussed the hypocrisy of Iran suggesting that it somehow supports democratization in the Middle East when, in fact, they first showed the repressive nature of that regime when they responded to the own peaceful protests that took place inside Iran almost two years ago. 我们还讨论了伊朗的虚伪——它声称自己支持中东民主化,但事实上,该政权的镇压本性早在近两年前回应伊朗国内的和平抗议时就已经暴露无遗。

Finally, we discussed the issue of a prospective peace between Israelis and Palestinians. And I reiterated and we discussed in depth the principles that I laid out yesterday -- the belief that our ultimate goal has to be a secure Israeli state, a Jewish state, living side by side in peace and security with a contiguous, functioning and effective Palestinian state. 最后,我们讨论了以色列人和巴勒斯坦人之间实现持久和平的问题。我重申并深入讨论了我昨天提出的原则——我们坚信最终目标必须是一个安全的以色列国、一个犹太国家,与一个领土连贯、运作有效且具有实际功能的巴勒斯坦国和平安全地比邻共存。

Obviously there are some differences between us in the precise formulations and language, and that’s going to happen between friends. But what we are in complete accord about is that a true peace can only occur if the ultimate resolution allows Israel to defend itself against threats, and that Israel’s security will remain paramount in U.S. evaluations of any prospective peace deal. 显然,我们在具体表述和措辞上存在一些分歧,这发生在朋友之间是正常的。但我们完全一致的是,真正的和平只有在最终解决方案允许以色列抵御威胁的情况下才能实现,以色列的安全在美国评估任何未来和平协议时都将占据首要地位。

I said that yesterday in the speech, and I continue to believe it. And I think that it is possible for us to shape a deal that allows Israel to secure itself, not to be vulnerable, but also allows it to resolve what has obviously been a wrenching issue for both peoples for decades now. 我昨天在演讲中说了这番话,我至今依然坚信。我认为我们有可能达成一项协议,既让以色列保障自身安全、不处于脆弱境地,又能让两个民族解决这一几十年来显然令双方都备受煎熬的问题。

I also pointed out, as I said in the speech yesterday, that it is very difficult for Israel to be expected to negotiate in a serious way with a party that refuses to acknowledge its right to exist. And so for that reason I think the Palestinians are going to have to answer some very difficult questions about this agreement that’s been made between Fatah and Hamas. Hamas has been and is an organization that has resorted to terror; that has refused to acknowledge Israel’s rights to exist. It is not a partner for a significant, realistic peace process. 我还指出,正如我昨天在演讲中所说,很难期望以色列能与一个拒绝承认其生存权利的政党进行认真谈判。因此,我认为巴勒斯坦人将不得不回答一些关于法塔赫与哈马斯之间达成的协议的非常棘手的问题。哈马斯一直是一个诉诸恐怖手段的组织,它拒绝承认以色列的生存权利。它不是一个能够实现严肃、现实的和平进程的伙伴。

And so, as I said yesterday during the speech, the Palestinians are going to have to explain how they can credibly engage in serious peace negotiations in the absence of observing the Quartet principles that have been put forward previously. 因此,正如我昨天在演讲中所说,巴勒斯坦人必须解释,在不遵守此前提出的中东问题四方原则的情况下,他们如何能够令人信服地参与严肃的和平谈判。

So, overall, I thought this was an extremely constructive discussion. And coming out of this discussion, I once again can reaffirm that the extraordinarily close relationship between the United States and Israel is sound and will continue, and that together, hopefully we are going to be able to work to usher in a new period of peace and prosperity in a region that is going to be going through some very profound transformations in the coming weeks, months and years. 总的来说,我认为这是一次极具建设性的讨论。通过这次讨论,我再次可以重申,美国与以色列之间非同寻常的密切关系是稳固的,并将持续下去;我希望我们能携手努力,在一个即将在未来数周、数月乃至数年内经历深刻变革的地区,开创一个和平与繁荣的新时期。

So, Mr. Prime Minister. 那么,总理先生。

Prime Minister Netanyahu: Thank you, Mr. President. 内塔尼亚胡总理:谢谢您,总统先生。

President Obama: Thank you very much. 奥巴马总统:非常感谢。

Prime Minister Netanyahu: Mr. President, first I want to thank you and the First Lady for the gracious hospitality that you’ve shown me, my wife, and our entire delegation. We have an enduring bond of friendship between our two countries, and I appreciate the opportunity to have this meeting with you after your important speech yesterday. 内塔尼亚胡总理:总统先生,首先我要感谢您和第一夫人对我、我夫人以及我们整个代表团的热情款待。我们两国之间有着持久的友谊纽带,我很珍视在您昨天重要演讲之后有机会与您举行这次会晤。

We share your hope and your vision for the spread of democracy in the Middle East. I appreciate the fact that you reaffirmed once again now, and in our conversation, and in actual deed the commitment to Israel’s security. We value your efforts to advance the peace process. 我们认同您对民主在中东传播的期望和愿景。我感谢您现在再次重申——在我们的对话中和实际行动中——对以色列安全的承诺。我们重视您推进和平进程的努力。

This is something that we want to have accomplished. Israel wants peace. I want peace. What we all want is a peace that will be genuine, that will hold, that will endure. And I think that the -- we both agree that a peace based on illusions will crash eventually on the rocks of Middle Eastern reality, and that the only peace that will endure is one that is based on reality, on unshakeable facts. 这是我们希望实现的目标。以色列渴望和平。我渴望和平。我们所有人都渴望一种真诚的、能够持久的、经得起考验的和平。我认为——我们双方都同意——建立在幻想之上的和平最终将撞碎在中东现实的礁石上,唯一能持久的和平是建立在现实和不可动摇的事实之上的和平。

I think for there to be peace, the Palestinians will have to accept some basic realities. 我认为,要实现和平,巴勒斯坦人必须接受一些基本的现实。

The first is that while Israel is prepared to make generous compromises for peace, it cannot go back to the 1967 lines -- because these lines are indefensible; because they don’t take into account certain changes that have taken place on the ground, demographic changes that have taken place over the last 44 years. 第一,虽然以色列愿意为和平做出慷慨的妥协,但不能回到1967年的边界线——因为这些防线是无法防守的;因为它们没有考虑到实地发生的某些变化,即过去44年来发生的人口变化。

Remember that, before 1967, Israel was all of nine miles wide. It was half the width of the Washington Beltway. 请记住,在1967年之前,以色列全境仅有九英里宽,还不及华盛顿环城公路宽度的一半。

And these were not the boundaries of peace; they were the boundaries of repeated wars, because the attack on Israel was so attractive. 而且这些不是和平的边界,而是反复战争的边界,因为对以色列发动攻击太过容易。

So we can't go back to those indefensible lines, and we're going to have to have a long-term military presence along the Jordan. 因此我们不能回到那些无法防守的边界线,我们需要在约旦河沿岸保持长期的军事存在。

I discussed this with the President and I think that we understand that Israel has certain security requirements that will have to come into place in any deal that we make. 我与总统讨论了这个问题,我认为我们都理解以色列有某些安全要求,这些要求必须在我们达成的任何协议中得到落实。

The second is -- echoes something the President just said, and that is that Israel cannot negotiate with a Palestinian government that is backed by Hamas. Hamas, as the President said, is a terrorist organization committed to Israel’s destruction. It’s fired thousands of rockets on our cities, on our children. It’s recently fired an anti-tank rocket at a yellow school bus, killing a 16-year-old boy. And Hamas has just attacked you, Mr. President, and the United States for ridding the world of bin Laden. 第二点——与总统刚才所说的相呼应,即以色列无法与一个由哈马斯支持的巴勒斯坦政府谈判。正如总统所说,哈马斯是一个致力于消灭以色列的恐怖组织。它向我们的城市、我们的孩子发射了数千枚火箭弹。它最近还向一辆黄色校车发射了一枚反坦克火箭弹,炸死了一名16岁的男孩。哈马斯还刚刚攻击了您,总统先生,以及美国为世界除掉本·拉丹的行动。

So Israel obviously cannot be asked to negotiate with a government that is backed by the Palestinian version of al Qaeda. 因此显然不能要求以色列与一个由巴勒斯坦版基地组织支持的政府谈判。

I think President Abbas has a simple choice. He has to decide if he negotiates or keeps his pact with Hamas, or makes peace with Israel. And I can only express what I said to you just now, that I hope he makes the choice, the right choice, in choosing peace with Israel. 我认为阿巴斯总统面临一个简单的选择。他必须决定是继续谈判,还是维持与哈马斯的协议,抑或是与以色列实现和平。我只能表达我刚才对您说的话,即我希望他做出选择——正确的选择——选择与以色列和平共处。

The third reality is that the Palestinian refugee problem will have to be resolved in the context of a Palestinian state, but certainly not in the borders of Israel. 第三个现实是,巴勒斯坦难民问题必须在巴勒斯坦国的框架内解决,而绝不能在以色列的边界内解决。

The Arab attack in 1948 on Israel resulted in two refugee problems -- Palestinian refugee problem and Jewish refugees, roughly the same number, who were expelled from Arab lands. Now, tiny Israel absorbed the Jewish refugees, but the vast Arab world refused to absorb the Palestinian refugees. Now, 63 years later, the Palestinians come to us and they say to Israel, accept the grandchildren, really, and the great grandchildren of these refugees, thereby wiping out Israel’s future as a Jewish state. 1948年阿拉伯国家对以色列的进攻造成了两个难民问题——巴勒斯坦难民和被阿拉伯国家驱逐的犹太难民,两者人数大致相当。如今,小小的以色列吸纳了犹太难民,但广阔的阿拉伯世界却拒绝接纳巴勒斯坦难民。63年后的今天,巴勒斯坦人来到我们面前,要求以色列接纳这些难民的孙辈、甚至曾孙辈,从而抹杀以色列作为犹太国家的未来。

So it’s not going to happen. 所以这是不可能发生的。

Everybody knows it’s not going to happen. 每个人都知道这不可能发生。

And I think it’s time to tell the Palestinians forthrightly it’s not going to happen. The Palestinian refugee problem has to be resolved. It can be resolved, and it will be resolved if the Palestinians choose to do so in a Palestinian state. So that's a real possibility. But it’s not going to be resolved within the Jewish state. 我认为到了坦率地告诉巴勒斯坦人这不可能发生的时候了。巴勒斯坦难民问题必须解决。它可以解决,如果巴勒斯坦人选择在巴勒斯坦国境内解决的话,它就一定会得到解决。所以这是切实可行的。但这个问题不会在犹太国家境内得到解决。

The President and I discussed all these issues and I think we may have differences here and there, but I think there’s an overall direction that we wish to work together to pursue a real, genuine peace between Israel and its Palestinian neighbors; a peace that is defensible. 总统和我讨论了所有这些问题,我认为我们可能在某些地方存在分歧,但我认为我们有一个总体方向,即我们希望共同努力,在以色列及其巴勒斯坦邻国之间追求一种真实、真诚的和平;一种能够守卫的和平。

Mr. President, you're the -- you're the leader of a great people, the American people. And I'm the leader of a much smaller people, the -- 总统先生,您是——您是一个伟大民族的领袖,美国人民。而我是一个小得多的民族的领袖——

President Obama: A great people. 奥巴马总统:一个伟大的民族。

Prime Minister Netanyahu: It’s a great people, too. It’s the ancient nation of Israel. And, you know, we've been around for almost 4,000 years. We've experienced struggle and suffering like no other people. We've gone through expulsions and pogroms and massacres and the murder of millions. But I can say that even at the dearth of -- even at the nadir of the valley of death, we never lost hope and we never lost our dream of reestablishing a sovereign state in our ancient homeland, the land of Israel. 内塔尼亚胡总理:也是一个伟大的民族。这是古老的以色列民族。你们知道,我们已存在了近四千年。我们经历了其他民族未曾经历的磨难和苦难。我们经历了驱逐、屠杀、大屠杀和数百万人的杀戮。但我可以说,即便在最匮乏的时刻——即便在死亡之谷的最低谷,我们也从未失去希望,从未失去在我们古老的家园、以色列的土地上重建主权国家的梦想。

And now it falls on my shoulders as the Prime Minister of Israel, at a time of extraordinary instability and uncertainty in the Middle East, to work with you to fashion a peace that will ensure Israel’s security and will not jeopardize its survival. I take this responsibility with pride but with great humility, because, as I told you in our conversation, we don't have a lot of margin for error. And because, Mr. President, history will not give the Jewish people another chance. 如今,作为以色列总理,在中东局势极度动荡不安之际,与您共同打造一份既能确保以色列安全又不会危及其生存的和平方案,这副重担落在了我的肩上。我怀着自豪但也怀着极大的谦卑承担这一责任,因为正如我在对话中告诉您的,我们没有太多犯错的余地。而且,总统先生,历史不会给犹太民族第二次机会。

So in the coming days and weeks and months, I intend to work with you to seek a peace that will address our security concerns, seek a genuine recognition that we wish from our Palestinian neighbors to give a better future for Israel and for the entire region. 因此,在未来的日子、数周和数月中,我打算与您合作,寻求一份能解决我们安全关切的和平方案,寻求巴勒斯坦邻邦给予的真诚承认,为以色列和整个地区创造更美好的未来。

And I thank you for the opportunity to exchange our views and to work together for this common end. Thank you, Mr. President. 我感谢您给予我们交换意见的机会,以及为这一共同目标而共同努力。谢谢您,总统先生。

President Obama: Thank you. 奥巴马总统:谢谢。

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Barack Obama(巴拉克·奥巴马)

Barack Obama(巴拉克·奥巴马)

美国首位非裔总统,第四十四任总统

出生:1961国籍:美国

巴拉克·奥巴马(Barack Obama)是美国第四十四任总统,也是美国历史上首位非裔美国人总统。他于1961年出生于夏威夷州,在2008年历史性当选总统之前曾担任伊利诺伊州参议员。在他的两届任期(2009-2017年)内,奥巴马总统取得了重大成就:通过《平价医疗法案》(奥巴马医改)使2000万美国人获得医疗保险,在2008年金融危机后改革金融监管体系,下令击毙本·拉登,结束美国在伊拉克的作战行动,推动全美同性婚姻合法化,恢复与古巴的外交关系,并通过《巴黎协定》领导全球应对气候变化的努力。他的总统任期被广泛认为是美国政治史上的重要里程碑,以希望、团结和变革的信息为特征。

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